The DWIronman League dies to: Jenesis

Oh boy you bet I'm getting past MAP12 this time.

Maybe. Probably. i'unno

I saw the thread title and I thought that another long-standing community member died, so I almost got all sad there. Seems now that I don't have to.

Ok, I'm in.

BTW, don't forget Roulette #3. ;)

Great thread idea. :) Never played Jenesis (still on my ever-increasing backlog of runs/playthroughs/etc.), so I dunno if I'm up for the task this month. I'll try to participate if you ever do a wad I'm familiar with, though.

I'll probably die in the first few seconds of the first map but alright. I'll try this.

Edit: Yeah MAP01. Just write this off.

Currently streaming! https://www.twitch.tv/st_alfonzo

Pending inaugural darwin award...

never played Jenesis so may be a bridge too far but ill join in i guess. map02 death incoming :D

DEAD - Map08

https://www.twitch.tv/st_alfonzo/v/76165364

What an idiot. Panicked with the wrong weapon selected having missed a radsuit falling into a vat of slime. Ran around like a headless chicken eating up all the sector damage looking for health that wasn't there and another way out. I found another way out...

...In death!!!

Nice idea. Would try this, but I don't have a streaming setup, so playing for 8+ hours continuously would be a bit much for me. :)

This to me is like when I randomly decide to play something, except on UV. I play until I die then I go and do something else :P
Funnily enough, it was Jenesis (on HNTR mind you) that I played last time I did that. Was not ready for the final fight on MAP09 :(

No doubt I'd never get past MAP01 on UV :P

rdwpa said:

Nice idea. Would try this, but I don't have a streaming setup, so playing for 8+ hours continuously would be a bit much for me. :)

Every other month I'll probably set up a shorter, more difficult mapset that's a bit more friendly to demo users. If there's a way to allow for splitting up of demos for those larger mapsets that I haven't thought of, then I'd jump on that quick-smart. Perhaps allowing for an exception in pistol starting?

Eris Falling said:

Was not ready for the final fight on MAP09 :(

Now that's a shame; the fight is certified cheese! Shame I couldn't survive far enough to demonstrate.

In prBoom+, depending on the -complevel of the mapset it's possible to use saves (e.g. works with -cl 9). Progress-preserving saves after map10 and map20 would make a demo more manageable.

Ah, neat, thanks. There's no reason not to make an exception for demo users in that case, assuming they have that option open to them. I'll tack the rule on!

Are Youtube videos accepted implying there's no editing obviously

I'm down for this, if I can find the time. It's more tempting if I can tackle it on a level-at-a-time basis in a demo with saves!

If y'all can confirm that this is okay then count me in. :)

SavageCorona said:

Are Youtube videos accepted implying there's no editing obviously

I'd forgotten about youtube for some reason (how did I manage that?)! If it's a recording then I don't see why it shouldn't be an option given the allowance for demos, so sure, go ahead. Just make sure you display the comp options and such. Ideally I'd like to see more live streams (I understand you can do this through youtube, anyway?) as watching and putting off your direct opponent is half the fun, but I'm not about to turn away half of the potential playerbase just because I like jeering from the sidelines.

Dragonfly said:

It's more tempting if I can tackle it on a level-at-a-time basis in a demo with saves!

If y'all can confirm that this is okay then count me in. :)

A-okay! You'll need to post the save files with each demo, of course. If you can keep it all neat and tidy and zip it up when you're done then that'd be sweet.

I'll practice by demoing Doom2 or some other pwad initially so that so I can get my head around how it works with saves. I'm happy to keep it tidy, to the point of using a clean PrBoom install. :)

Alfonzo said:

I'd forgotten about youtube for some reason (how did I manage that?)! If it's a recording then I don't see why it shouldn't be an option given the allowance for demos, so sure, go ahead. Just make sure you display the comp options and such. Ideally I'd like to see more live streams (I understand you can do this through youtube, anyway?) as watching and putting off your direct opponent is half the fun, but I'm not about to turn away half of the potential playerbase just because I like jeering from the sidelines.

A-okay! You'll need to post the save files with each demo, of course. If you can keep it all neat and tidy and zip it up when you're done then that'd be sweet.

Clarification: Only one demo file is produced. The process is:

[After quitting], relaunch the game with the same command line, same -record "demo file name", and it [sends you] to the latest save point instead of starting at the beginning and overwriting the demo.

rdwpa: does this work if you have 'overwrite demo files' set to TRUE in PrBoom+ options?

i would test myself but im at work :(

Thanks for the advice rdwpa! :D

yw

rehelekretep said:

rdwpa: does this work if you have 'overwrite demo files' set to TRUE in PrBoom+ options?

i would test myself but im at work :(

Yeah that's what I have set.

interesting! i will check it out when i get home.

does this only work on Boom comp settings (-1, 9, 11?)? ie with the Boom extended demo format?

I haven't tried all the complevels, but yeah I'd assume it needs something like that. In fact -1 allows for loads without ever quitting, but -1 shouldn't really be played on.

i think that 'recordfromto' can be used with complevels 2&3 to do something similar to the 'continue from save' in Boom-maps - perhaps that is another way to do this challenge (havent tried this either).

Yeah I considered that, but it's an actual TAS feature, so it'd be weird to promote it. :p

Alfonzo said:

I'd forgotten about youtube for some reason (how did I manage that?)! If it's a recording then I don't see why it shouldn't be an option given the allowance for demos, so sure, go ahead. Just make sure you display the comp options and such. Ideally I'd like to see more live streams (I understand you can do this through youtube, anyway?) as watching and putting off your direct opponent is half the fun, but I'm not about to turn away half of the potential playerbase just because I like jeering from the sidelines.

So I just have to show my compflag settings are the strict Doom ones since I'd most likely be using GZDoom since it's the easiest to record?

Also are we allowed to use the fast monsters flag as some kind of hardcore challenge?

:o

dont mention the TAS...

DEAD - Map 02

(prboom-plus.exe -file .\jenesis.wad -record ironman_noisy.lmp -skill 4)

very exciting.

also, for taking breaks, i'm pretty sure you can just hit the escape key and it effectively pauses the demo, so you don't need saves if you can afford to keep your computer idle.

Ugg... Map 2 in the first little area. Those two chain gunners made quick work of me.

I recorded with FRAPS since I already had that for other games but I found I was getting really bad frame rates while playing Map 1 (but not Map 2). Even stranger it recorded at a faster frame rate than it displayed to me.