Jark Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) March 2nd EDIT: The RC1 release thread is out! Very Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening ladies and gentlemen, It is with my upmost pleasure to introduce The Modest Mapping Challenge 2! I plan to start on the right foot this time, 1 year after the first project launched (or crashed), I'm a wee bit more experienced so things should go a bit smoother. My fellow host @Pegleg and I have been busy behind the scenes with rule re-imagining and choosing sets of textures to use, yes we're not just using stock this time. While there is a fair amount (certainly not modest) of information below to digest, it is a relatively simple challenge to which Format: Doom 2 Vanilla (Doom: Doom 2 (Doom Format)) IWAD: Doom 2 Resources: GothicTX + Greenwar 2 tex (and stock) Size: 32 map Megawad with 3 episodes Rules: Maps must be made under/equal to 40 Sectors (Can Join sectors) A maximum of 5 Monster types can be used (Can be different for each Difficulty) Maps must contain Co-op starts and be functional in Co-op (Albeit not the sole focus) Difficulty settings must be implemented Maps must be Pistol Startable Episodic weapon restrictions must be followed (See Mappers/Slots) No Cyberdemons outside of episode ending maps for continuity The Signups Period will be June 25th to August 1st. Mapping will begin on July 1st (Resources will be released then) with each mapper being able to submit 1 map each (unless we don't reach the 32 map mark near the deadline, in which case the signup period will be extended), the deadline for map hand-in is September 7th. I would vastly appreciate any contributing mappers to join the Modest Mapping Discord (https://discord.gg/2TJbPej) as it really helps with organisation and if you need a hand with something/need something tested we'll be sure to help out. Maps should be completely new and started within the mapping period. Mappers/Slots: Spoiler Episode 1: Castle (Earth Castle not Hell) - No SSG, Plasma Rifle or BFG Map01: @Jark Map02: @Alper002 Map03: @Zillah Map04: @Blue_Juice_ Map05: @MikeyScoots Map06: @xxWeNxx Map07: @Solmyr Map08: @Pegleg Map09: @Austinado Map10: @Mojius Map11: @PasokonDeacon Episode 2: Overrun Techbase (demons have taken over, but still on Earth) - No SSG or BFG Map12: @joe-ilya Map13: @wolfmcbeard Map14: @BluePineapple72 Map15 (Secret Exit): @Pegleg Map16: @Horus Map17: @HUNdebLeonidasX Map18: @Jark Map19: @aletheos eberlain Map20: @DukeOfDoom Episode 3: Hell (Is Hell) - All weapons allowed Map21: @Black Shuck 97 Map22: @LateNightPerson Map23: @DynamiteKaitorn Map24: @Pierrot Map25: @joe-ilya Map26: @LateNightPerson Map27: @SiMpLeToNiUm Map28: @LowGcifer Map29: @joepallai Map30: @MAN_WITH_GUN Secret Maps: Map31 (Secret Exit): @ViolentBeetle Map32: @Walter confetti There is a story in place to explain this seemingly odd progression and ties into the last project somewhat; Story (Prologue): Spoiler A few years have passed since your previous interaction with the underworld, the peace humanity had enjoyed since the downfall of the demonic invasion was however (and predictably), not to last. A fiendish coven comprised of the last six cyberdemons, took leadership of Hell after the Icon of Sin's demise. The coven took steps to make sure this time their plans would not be foiled by the likes of you. Mustering all of hell's combined strength, the Coven sent you into the future so that nothing would stand in their way - After your disappearance, armies of demons soon invaded Earth once again and easily conquered it. Stuck in the future with only your wits and trusty pistol, you must defeat the coven and reverse all the suffering and torment that has been caused since your untimely time travel. This might prove tricky however, as the coven have you imprisoned in the dungeon of a great castle with one of the six cyberdemons in charge. Good luck! (At the end of each episode, an increasing number of the cyberdemon coven must be fought in order to proceed: episode 1 = 1, episode 2 = 2, episode 3 = the final 3 then victory!) Discord: https://discord.gg/2TJbPej Example Map - Map01 (Not final version): http://www.mediafire.com/file/pj3yn2bkony9faw/TMMC2.wad/file Edited March 2, 2021 by Jark 23 Share this post Link to post
Walter confetti Posted May 26, 2020 Do you have in mind something in particular for secret maps? 0 Share this post Link to post
Jark Posted May 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Walter confetti said: Do you have in mind something in particular for secret maps? Not at all Walter! TMMC 1's were quite abstract yet fun, so nothing is off the table! 1 Share this post Link to post
Jark Posted May 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, DukeOfDoom said: Aw yeah! I'm in! I like the enthusiasm! Which slot do you wish to claim? 2 Share this post Link to post
DukeOfDoom Posted May 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Jark said: I like the enthusiasm! Which slot do you wish to claim? Probably MAP20. Also a question: how many maps can be made per user? 1 Share this post Link to post
Jark Posted May 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, DukeOfDoom said: Probably MAP20. Also a question: how many maps can be made per user? Signed up! At the start 1, however if we reach a point where it is unlikely that we will fill all 32 map slots then multiple maps per user will be available - this would be a month or few weeks at the very least from the deadline. 2 Share this post Link to post
Solmyr Posted May 26, 2020 Time sure flies fast! This new iteration of the MMC is more challenging for aiming towards vanilla compatibility. Since the story involves a cabal of cyberdemons each fought on episode ending maps, mappers aren't allowed to use at least one cyber on regular maps in epsiode 2 and 3? Dumb question, but its to be sure. I'd like to claim map 07. 2 Share this post Link to post
Jark Posted May 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Solmyr said: Time sure flies fast! This new iteration of the MMC is more challenging for aiming towards vanilla compatibility. Since the story involves a cabal of cyberdemons each fought on episode ending maps, mappers aren't allowed to use at least one cyber on regular maps in epsiode 2 and 3? Dumb question, but its to be sure. I'd like to claim map 07. Very good point! I'll add it to the rules actually, yes mappers aren't allowed to use cyberdemons outside of episode ending maps as the point is there are only six left so a few randomly cropping up wouldn't make much sense, Map 07 is yours! 0 Share this post Link to post
Steve88 Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) Can I have map29 =) and is that a cyber demon map? 0 Share this post Link to post
Jark Posted May 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Steve88 said: Can I have map29 =) and is that a cyber demon map? It would be my pleasure, no that would be map 30 for episode three 0 Share this post Link to post
Steve88 Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) So if level 30has the cyberdemon I am guessing no LOS level? Of that's the case I would like level 30. :) 0 Share this post Link to post
Jark Posted May 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Steve88 said: So if level 30has the cyberdemon I am guessing no LOS level? Of that's the case I would like level 30. :) No IoS map indeed, the last map needs to contain 3 impassable cyberdemons which you must get the player(s) to kill all 3 of. I had the thought that the final map would take place in a great marble palace, but if that infringes too much on your creative liberty then feel free to deviate. Other the Cyberdemon rule is the main difference, Steve88 is now making the ultimatum! (No pressure) 0 Share this post Link to post
ViolentBeetle Posted May 26, 2020 Oh dang it I had exactly the idea for final level which involves 3 cyberdemons, but MAP30 is already taken. 1 Share this post Link to post
Jark Posted May 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, ViolentBeetle said: Oh dang it I had exactly the idea for final level which involves 3 cyberdemons, but MAP30 is already taken. Apologies as the episode enders went pretty quick! Write the idea down somewhere though, might come in handy someday 1 Share this post Link to post
Steve88 Posted May 26, 2020 Awesomeness, I am indeed a big fan of marble in hell settings, and I haven't done a boss level before so I ma excited =). I will do my best using the basic doom 2 actions to force the player to kill the cybers. 2 Share this post Link to post
Jark Posted May 26, 2020 50 minutes ago, BluePineapple72 said: I’d like map 13 please! Apologies for the late reply, you're in! 1 Share this post Link to post
BluePineapple72 Posted May 26, 2020 Just now, Jark said: Apologies for the late reply, you're in! No worries! While you’re here, I’d like to ask about the sector limit. Does this count sector details? Or is it simply counting how many rooms you can use? If you can, could you provide an example map please? I think this will be a fun challenge, but I’d need some reference before I get started, that way I do the challenge justice. 0 Share this post Link to post
Jark Posted May 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, BluePineapple72 said: No worries! While you’re here, I’d like to ask about the sector limit. Does this count sector details? Or is it simply counting how many rooms you can use? If you can, could you provide an example map please? I think this will be a fun challenge, but I’d need some reference before I get started, that way I do the challenge justice. All sectors my friend! Example map at the bottom of the OP! IMPORTANT: MAPPING HAS NOW BEGUN, RESOURCE IS AVAILABLE ON OP After some conversation on the discord with participants, it became clear there was no point in waiting until the 1st if people wanted to map now so have at thee! Deadline remains the same but you can start now if you so wish! 4 Share this post Link to post
Clippy Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) 40 sectors seems crazy. I need three to make a door But I'll try anyway cause I'm bored Map 8? 2 Share this post Link to post
The_SloVinator Posted May 26, 2020 Why not. Count me in. I'll take map 24. 0 Share this post Link to post
Jark Posted May 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Clippy said: 40 sectors seems crazy. I need three to make a door But I'll try anyway cause I'm bored Map 8? Tis' the beauty of it! You're in! 6 minutes ago, The_SloVinator said: Why not. Count me in. I'll take map 24. Glad to have the company! 2 Share this post Link to post
Clippy Posted May 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jark said: Tis' the beauty of it! You're in! Glad to have the company! What do you mean castle level Castle textures I want to do an all inside things 0 Share this post Link to post
Jark Posted May 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Clippy said: What do you mean castle level Castle textures I want to do an all inside things The first Episode to which you have chosen a map within, is based in one castle - so be all means an inside only level is fine! The example map01 is all inside! But yes it's a castly episode for castly maps! If you are still unsure message me! 1 Share this post Link to post
TheV1perK1ller Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) Awesome sounding project! I'm interested to see the end result. Best of luck to everyone! I was wondering if I could please take the MAP22 slot? Edited June 1, 2020 by TheV1perK1ller : Actually now the MAP12 slot. 2 Share this post Link to post
DynamiteKaitorn Posted May 27, 2020 As a major fan of the silliness that is map 23, I wish to claim the 23rd slot if at all possible my good sire. 1 Share this post Link to post
Walter confetti Posted May 27, 2020 Oh, I see that the mapping started instead of July 1st, good! So, I'd like to make a map for MAP32, I'll come out with some ideas... 1 Share this post Link to post
Jark Posted May 27, 2020 8 hours ago, TheV1perK1ller said: Awesome sounding project! I'm interested to see the end result. Best of luck to everyone! I was wondering if I could please take the MAP22 slot? You most certainly can! 8 hours ago, DynamiteKaitorn said: As a major fan of the silliness that is map 23, I wish to claim the 23rd slot if at all possible my good sire. It is yours for the mapping my liege! 5 hours ago, Walter confetti said: Oh, I see that the mapping started instead of July 1st, good! So, I'd like to make a map for MAP32, I'll come out with some ideas... Yes the mapping has commenced! I look forward to what you come up with :) -----------------------------------Ladies and Gentlemen, we have already 19 slots taken! At quite an alarmingly rate too, if you've been thinking about mapping for episode 1 in particular or a secret map, now would be the time to enter before they're taken! 1 Share this post Link to post
