What do you think of Doom content? (Youtube).

Personally, they are pretty good.

Aside from technical information resources, I've all but had my fill. I appreciate all the different perspectives but mostly it reminds me to ignore consensus that results from a lot of it and just do my own thing.

It good

Big fan of Dean of Doom, although I have to avoid most of his episodes because they're on wads I want to play at some point. Coincident is good fun, although Youtube doesn't recommend me his stuff much which is a pain. I like Decino's analysis videos, and the videos where you get to see more of his actual live reactions, but I can't say I'm a fan of his main content where you watch him beat a map. His Italo-doom videos strike a good balance imo. Doomkid's videos are also really great, its just a shame I've watched them all. Jimmy's youtube channel is one I don't see discussed much which is a shame, I love his wad overview videos, you can tell he's really passionate about the wads he reviews and the reviews are really well written as a result.

NuDoom content on youtube is much less my speed, however. I appreciate UnderTheMayo for the consistency of his reviews, even if he seems to dislike games that try for any kind of narrative instead of just going for pure gameplay, and his doom eternal videos are brilliant for anyone looking to really dig into the game's mechanics. I'm still surprised he hated ULTRAKILL, though. The rest of the NuDoom community just confuses me, I don't see the appeal of most of the videos there.

Oh yeah, Midnight is a clickbaity hack and should delete his channel.

Don't get me started on Under the Mayo.

I think his Halo Infinite review is so horrible, I could go on for an hour how much that video annoys me. But his NuDoom content is good, has he made any videos on classic Doom?  Also I have to watch his videos sped up, the way he talks just distracts me. I could go on for hours about how I dont like UTM but ill move on. 

People like Midnight exist in every community on youtube so I don't really care.

I think the problem with NuDoom Youtubers is that they are directly dependent on id software to give them more content to make videos about. This leads the community to scrounge up everything they can.

Classic Doom youtubers are best. Decino, Mtpain27,Doomkid, ect ,ect are legends and make great content. They inspire me to make my own videos but I always get distracted from video making. 

One part of Doom YouTube I dont see people talking alot is the Brutal Doom side of youtube. Unedited and no commentary videos of someone playing Brutal Doom or a variant of Brutal Doom with crazy amounts of visual and enhancement mods. I dont understand how these guys get a following, their content just seems boring. 

One other thing I notice is the non Doom related channels and creators talking about Doom. For example, what was the last time a WAD made it into the gaming news that wasnt caused by another action. But then you see people talk about "WOAH SEE THIS COOL THING THAT THEY MADE DOOM RUN ON" or "LOOK AT THIS COOL GIMMICK MOD THAT IS LIKE THAT OTHER THING." I know this is getting more into game journalism but it extends to youtube.  

I see Tatsurd-Cacocaco is back after a while away, with a UV Max run of Speed of Doom - one of my absolute favourites to watch and one of the YouTube OGs.

https://www.youtube.com/user/tatsurdcacocaco

I like Coincident's shorts a lot, they're a good quick little giggle for a short serotonin boost should I need one.

For me it's not quite.

25 minutes ago, MemeMind said:

 

People like Midnight exist in every community on youtube so I don't really care.

 

One part of Doom YouTube I dont see people talking alot is the Brutal Doom side of youtube. Unedited and no commentary videos of someone playing Brutal Doom or a variant of Brutal Doom with crazy amounts of visual and enhancement mods. I dont understand how these guys get a following, their content just seems boring. 

I just started making some videos so I'm curious about this stuff.  I think I see what you mean about Midnight just by scrolling through his video page, haven't watched any but I can see how the titles could be misleading.  Of course he has tons of views because that's the way youtube works.  I've found myself making some dumb titles/ thumbnails because it does get more people to look at them, and sometimes it's funny for a joke, but there's a line you can cross in making them too misleading and annoying... obviously it's actually worked out for Midnight, though.

And yeah the brutal doom stuff... I see people getting burgeoning channels just by posting unedited pure gameplay of stuff like brutal doom.  I mean anyone can do that, and does do that, and there's like thousands of vids like that you don't get fed by the algorithm.  Seems like some of them are just good at providing a good cadence of videos, and good bite sized chunks of new maps/ mods/ gameplay every day that people like to see.  Or they get lucky.  Seems pretty hard to differentiate your channel without adding anything more, though.

I will say any videos I do covering mods automatically get more views than classic doom, so far.  One inkling I have is that in a lot of countries in the world where games/pcs etc are more expensive, dressing up doom to make it look completely different and modern is a popular way to squeeze a lot out of a cheap game.  Whereas if I want a modern shooter I'll load up a modern shooter.  A lot of doom mods just seem ridiculous and garish to me.  I did enjoy Wolfenstein X recently though, which is basically brutal wolfenstein with better maps.

Most of the Doom videos I watch online are analysis videos, and they're fine.

At least, those by Decino and Coincident and Borogk are fine.

I also like Doomkid's debunk videos and tutorials.

decino makes some decent analysis videos, GamingGargoyle makes some profoundly good Gmod-style animations that we probably don't deserve, and that's about as far as my knowledge goes.

Most the content seems to just be walkthroughs and speedruns, which makes sense since they're pretty easy to make, and the modding scene is so vast that, to my knowledge, Dean of Doom is probably the first person who's really tried to cover it in significant detail, but of course for every 'classic' he decides to make an episode on, there's another 30 that people are still waiting for him to do (and a very vocal minority who seem to think that Sunlust is the only WAD in existence but that's another matter). 

also gmanlives is a paid shill and a charlatan

I don’t care for videos where there’s commentary unless it’s more than just gameplay. If it’s more like a tutorial, scripted review, or documentary-like video then that’s one thing, but just gameplay footage, I prefer to have the gameplay speak for itself. 

Edit: I can’t stand it when YouTubers speak forever in the menu before getting to the gameplay, which is likely why I tune out commentary videos as soon as I hear the first attempt at a spoken word. Why not save the review, the “like and subscribe and don’t forget to wipe my behind” banter for the end of the video? Seriously, if they saved the chit chat for the intermission screen maybe I’d be a bit more curious about what they’d have to say about the level, but talking throughout the map distracts the hell out of me and the long menu times are annoying. At least if it were at the end I had already sat through the gameplay. 

It's awesome, I probably wouldn't care about player content for Doom as much as I do now if it wasn't for decino and MtPain27.

I watch no commentary brutal doom and project brutality videos when im bored mostly when Im about to go to bed witch is odd since I dont even play brutal doom or project brutality 

I watch just straight playthroughs of wads, preferably with no commentary unless it is someone like WhamNinjaMolehill (who unfortunately has stopped uploading?).

I don't really watch the "mainstream" Doom channels, which I hate saying for the fear of sounding like a hipster ^{(Let's face it though, I am one)}. I also like watching the feedback videos people make here, they help me decide if I want to play the wad or not and can be nice to just chill out to.

2 minutes ago, Snark said:

I like Chubzdoomer's tutorial build videos. Mostky because he sounds like the old cowboy in the big lebowski, and I can't help but imagining that character explaining to me how to make a rising staircase.

 

"Sometimes you eat the pinky and well, sometimes the pinky eats you.  Just one thing doomguy - do ya have to rip and tear so dang much?  Ok, have it your way dude."

I always check out decino’s analysis videos. They’re neat.

I'm kinda surprised there's pretty much no coverage of the Cacowards. SoBad started 4 months ago with Auger Zenith and other runners-up, and said in a comment that he's intending to go through them all. Really cheerful dude, also made a video about dealing with revenants that I found super helpful: How to Doom: Revenants, and also does some fight analysis.

18 minutes ago, HrnekBezucha said:

I'm kinda surprised there's pretty much no coverage of the Cacowards. SoBad started 4 months ago with Auger Zenith and other runners-up, and said in a comment that he's intending to go through them all. Really cheerful dude, also made a video about dealing with revenants that I found super helpful: How to Doom: Revenants, and also does some fight analysis.

That revenant vid is awesome!  Actually helped me get quite a bit better against them.  I was definitely looking forward to more of those, though they've been mostly just playing through stuff.  Cacoaward videos could be a cool idea though, it would take a while to play through them all but some overview/ review video(s) would be interesting for sure.  Maybe an idea I could try out sometime.

3 hours ago, Jaccident said:

Doomkid's videos are also really great, its just a shame I've watched them all. Jimmy's youtube channel is one I don't see discussed much which is a shame, I love his wad overview videos, you can tell he's really passionate about the wads he reviews and the reviews are really well written as a result.

I'll definitely make a few more once the mapping contest is wrapped up! Also Jimmy is for sure underrated. Another underrated one is DavidXNewton.

Most of them are pretty decent, but that's just because I watch mainly speedrunning and Doom-focused stuff. Can't say I watch Gman too much, and I've never seen a Joel video, though I guess he had a wad contest at one point. Honest truth is, though I like things like Gaming Gargoyle, Mt. Pain, decino, and dwars, but I could care less about most 'mainstream' Doomtubers. And I don't spend lots of time watching what's there if I can help it, not when there's plenty of other non-Doom content on YouTube

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5 minutes ago, LadyMistDragon said:

I could care less about most 'mainstream' Doomtubers.

Isn't decino the most popular DoomTube channel there is? Not that that's a bad thing, he deserves it, but I just giggled at that. Or maybe you mean Doom 4/5 centric YT channels when you say "mainstream"?

6 minutes ago, Doomkid said:

Isn't decino the most popular DoomTube channel there is? Not that that's a bad thing, he deserves it, but I just giggled at that. Or maybe you mean Doom 4/5 centric YT channels when you say "mainstream"?

Yes,pretty much. Gman has something like 500,000 to decino's 150K+, and there's plenty more examples. But I mostly just watch the latter for his analysis videos anyway.

Obligatory MtPain, decino analysis videos, etc.

I'll take the chance to post koren (who has been doing Quake stuff instead of Doom for quite a while now) and Touchdown (who I think I learned of from Grain of Salt), who both have smatterings of commentated Max videos. Stream of consciousness commentary over runs like these are something I greatly enjoy, it ends up being a nice mixture of casual self-reflection and explanation of the strategies and thought processing done during the run, rather than something like decino's style of explaining the raw strategy and performing it as he goes through the map. Perfect material both for casual viewing and learning.

Wondering what's happened to that SoBad mate. Uploaded like a fury, now silent for almost two months.

Personally I like BigMacDavis, he caters to Doom babbies like me without gunning for the bleeding edge, I appreciate that.

Not trying to advertise in here, but I do make Doom content of my own, reviewing some WADs (Although it's way more like AVGN with not too much gameplay thrown into the mix) and I do enjoy wacthing it sometimes. As for non-me Doom YouTubers, there are few but I mostly watch Decino and that's pretty much it. Oh, and a bit of @Austinado, too.

My 3 favs are: doomkid mtpain and decino. They've entertained me for hours.

Br0leg is also cool.

Dwars, Civvie, MtPain, Decino, and Doomkid are my favorites. I feel as if alot of Doom content on youtube is clickbait-y though. I guess that just always happen when a game when it gets popular.