Doomkid Posted June 3, 2023 Well folks, it's coming. The THIRTIETH ANNIVERSARY of Doom deathmatch! To celebrate 30 years of fragging, I think it's more than appropriate that we get 30 fun, classic-style DM maps wrangled together! Let's continue the three-decades-long tradition of hot marine-on-marine action. GUIDELINES: • I created a video tutorial on how to create a good Deathmatch map - I highly recommend watching it before you make your map, unless you are already experienced in the realm of DM mapping, of course. Decay's written guide is also very useful! • THERE WILL BE QUALITY ASSURANCE. If your map is not good enough, you will be given feedback and can of course improve it, if possible. However, please note that something which is simply not up to snuff quality-wise may be rejected. (Consult the tutorials to avoid this happening!) • Your map should have between 6 and 9 player spawns. Didn't pick these numbers as a joke - this genuinely is the best range of spawn points to place in an FFA map. Size-wise, make your map comfy for 6 players, but still non-boring for duels. • We'll be using Doom 1 and Doom 2 textures, with just a couple DWANGO logos thrown in and 3 skies from Snaxalotl's Sky Snack Pack. Go for a classic-but-clean visual style! The visual style can be a tech base, hellish map, E4 style, or really just any theme that doesn't go too crazy as far as deviation from iwad stylings. • The format is vanilla -complevel 2, but it will be limit-removing as all the multiplayer ports (and hell, everything other than chocolate/vanilla) support going way above the classic visplane limit. No BOOM or ZDOOM stuff, just to get it to feel mostly in line with the classic DM experience. RESOURCE WAD & EXAMPLE MAP: Here's the wad containing the (very select few) custom resources this pack will be using: • dwa30m1.zip (or the doomshack mirror) Map01 gives a good example of what I'm hoping for, but you don't need to go quite that heavy on the detail. This is primarily about really functional layouts, well-placed weapons, and well-placed spawns above all else. Here's some screenshots: NOTES FOR SUBMISSIONS: You can submit up to 2 maps per person. Please specify whether you'd like 1 or 2 maps as you sign up! Once I get to a total of 30, I'll close the doors, and they will only be reopened if claimants drop out, or there are submissions which do not make the cut and the author doesn't feel like making another attempt. Your maps must be 100% original, from-scratch creations. Nothing based on prior map layouts, SLIGE generated maps, etc etc You don't have to be 100% done, but have something to show me by August 10th. CURRENT MAPPER ROSTER: • Doomkid (2 maps) • Snaxalotl (1 map) • MtPain27 (1 map) • ignatiOS (1 map) • jmac (1 map) • Argent Agent (2 maps) • DJVCardMaster (1 map) • Bobby "J (1 map) • Ludi (1 map) • Dark Pulse (1 map?) • Maribo (1 map) • Nefelibeta (1 map) • wertercatt (1 map) • antares031 (1 map) • ThatWeNGuy (1 map) • roadworx (1 map) • MFG38 (1 map) • PRO-RC (1 map) • OpenRift (1 map) • hiimaura (1 map) • Doom_Pope (1 map) • Roofi (1 map) • RataUnderground (2 maps) • DoctorNuriel (1 map) • obake (1 map) • Al-Faris M (1 map) • msx2plus (1 map) Slots taken: 30/30 BONUS MAPPER ROSTER: • phoo (1 map) • RileyXY1 (1 map) • Vladguy (1 map) • LGmaire (1 map) • YeOldeFellerNoob (1 map) • Kaapeli47 (1 map) • Meyland12 (1 map) • NieMaMordy (1 map) • hobomaster22 (1 map) • DJVCardMaster (1 map) Slots taken: 10/10 ..I hope you like what you see so far, and looking forward to a brand-new classic-style megawad to celebrate 3 decades of fraggin'! 55 Share this post Link to post
Korp Posted June 3, 2023 Woah, 30 years already?. I'm not much of a mapper but i could write bespoke midis for some of the maps. :3 5 Share this post Link to post
ignatiOS Posted June 3, 2023 Just finished my own vanilla deathmatch thing, finally think I'm getting motivation again, I'd be more then glad to contribute a map to this! 1 Share this post Link to post
jmac Posted June 3, 2023 I'm gonna try to make something for this. No promises I'll get it done before the 30 slots are filled, especially considering I've never actually finished a map I've been happy enough with to release to the public. No sweat if I don't make the cut though, I'll just use my work for a personal project if I'm too slow. 1 Share this post Link to post
Argent Agent Posted June 3, 2023 I'll throw my two hats into the ring (two maps). 1 Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted June 3, 2023 34 minutes ago, ignatiOS said: Just finished my own vanilla deathmatch thing, finally think I'm getting motivation again, I'd be more then glad to contribute a map to this! Great! I'll add you to this list. 30 minutes ago, jmac said: I'm gonna try to make something for this. No promises I'll get it done before the 30 slots are filled, especially considering I've never actually finished a map I've been happy enough with to release to the public. No sweat if I don't make the cut though, I'll just use my work for a personal project if I'm too slow. No worries at all, I'll give you a slot for now, don't rush by any means and feel free to drop out any time. 15 minutes ago, Argent Agent said: I'll throw my two hats into the ring (two maps). Great to have you Argentum! Added to the list. 37 minutes ago, Korp said: Woah, 30 years already?. I'm not much of a mapper but i could write bespoke midis for some of the maps. :3 This is an amazing offer, I'd love to have you toss some MIDIs into the ring c: 3 Share this post Link to post
DJVCardMaster Posted June 3, 2023 Let's see what I can do, if there is a slot claim add me to the list. 1 Share this post Link to post
Bobby :D Posted June 3, 2023 Doing some clean and simple vanilla stuff has been on my to do list for a while, as well as deathmatch. I'm totally in for a slot! 2 Share this post Link to post
Ludi Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) I was gonna take a break from Doomworld but this was brought to my attention. Queue me! I have plenty of DM Mapping experience and can send my work as a seal of quality. 1 Share this post Link to post
Dark Pulse Posted June 3, 2023 Oof. If that June 24th deal were a bit later, I'd consider taking a spot, but work is going to keep me super busy until the 22nd, and I'm not all that sure if I'd have more than an extremely barebones skeleton by June 24th - if I'd even have one at all. :( 1 Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted June 3, 2023 I'll lightly pencil you in DP - don't sweat it if you can't get one done fast enough though! There's always the chance other users don't finish their maps in time or pull out, as well. 0 Share this post Link to post
Dark Pulse Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Doomkid said: I'll lightly pencil you in DP - don't sweat it if you can't get one done fast enough though! There's always the chance other users don't finish their maps in time or pull out, as well. Well, after June 22nd I'm home until September, so I'd be able to pick up stuff like this a lot quicker. Basically, if you don't mind waiting a hair longer after the 22nd, I'd probably have something worthwhile. I need to get some mapping chops in anyway; need to work on that map for Pandora 64 as well as work on my last GEC Master Edition conversion for PS1, so a DM map is a nice little warmup. :) 1 Share this post Link to post
wertercatt Posted June 3, 2023 I'm willing to try and map for this. Do you know of any complevel 2 deathmatch bots I could use for playtesting? 1 Share this post Link to post
antares031 Posted June 3, 2023 I don't have much time with doom mapping nowadays, but I'd like to submit at least one DM map for this one. 2 Share this post Link to post
roadworx Posted June 3, 2023 ooh, yes please!! i will absolutely make a map for this 1 Share this post Link to post
Sectorslayer Posted June 3, 2023 Awesome project! What’s the up-to-date way to playtest deathmatch? You all hang out on servers or is there a bot implementation somewhere? 2 Share this post Link to post
MFG38 Posted June 3, 2023 Just so happens that I've been wanting to give deathmatch mapping a spin lately! Pen me in for one map. 1 Share this post Link to post
PRO-RC Posted June 3, 2023 I'll take one map slot! Expect a E4 styled map out of me, I'm just in that kinda mood. 1 Share this post Link to post
OpenRift Posted June 3, 2023 Agh man, you know I gotta do one for this. Put me on for a map, whichever slot you got! 1 Share this post Link to post
hiimaura Posted June 3, 2023 Aight I'm making one tonight. Save my spot :D 1 Share this post Link to post
Bridgeburner56 Posted June 3, 2023 I doubt I'll have time to make a map but hit me up if you want the map pack to be put through the testing gauntlet c: 1 Share this post Link to post
Async Unicorn Posted June 3, 2023 I hope someone will launch a Deathmatch server with that after it's done, so I can finally experience that mode; it's one of my dreams, actually, because of all these vintage demos and lots of DM Wads from the 90s 2 Share this post Link to post
Doom_Pope Posted June 3, 2023 I s'pose I'll try to make something up to snuff. Put me down for one map, good sir. 1 Share this post Link to post
Roofi Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) Hello, I would like to try something. I'm not a multiplayer player but I visited ton of random DM maps on idgames during the Endless Random Wad Adventures. I think it's time to do a tribute to the multiplayer scenery. 3 Share this post Link to post
RataUnderground Posted June 3, 2023 Want to take 2 slots for this, can be? 1 Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted June 3, 2023 It can, Rata! There's now just 4 slots remaining (unless I've missed someone - please let me know if so). Grab them before they're gone fellas! 5 hours ago, Dark Pulse said: Well, after June 22nd I'm home until September, so I'd be able to pick up stuff like this a lot quicker. Basically, if you don't mind waiting a hair longer after the 22nd, I'd probably have something worthwhile. I need to get some mapping chops in anyway; need to work on that map for Pandora 64 as well as work on my last GEC Master Edition conversion for PS1, so a DM map is a nice little warmup. :) Since you'll be free after the 22nd, I'll give you up to the 30th to get me a map skeleton, DP. That way you don't have to try some 2-day-crunch nonsense. 5 hours ago, wertercatt said: I'm willing to try and map for this. Do you know of any complevel 2 deathmatch bots I could use for playtesting? There are a number of SP / vanilla bots out there - I don't know of any offhand, but I'll look around and get back to you on this! In the meantime, feel free to do your actual gameplay testing with Zandronum, which includes bots out of the box. 5 hours ago, Sectorslayer said: Awesome project! What’s the up-to-date way to playtest deathmatch? You all hang out on servers or is there a bot implementation somewhere? I have servers on ZDaemon under the [Doomshack.org] label, that's where we usually congregate/test! 2 hours ago, Bridgeburner56 said: I doubt I'll have time to make a map but hit me up if you want the map pack to be put through the testing gauntlet c: Thank you BB! Once we have a good number of maps assembled, I'll absolutely send this your way for some testing. 2 hours ago, Vanilla+Unicorn said: I hope someone will launch a Deathmatch server with that after it's done, so I can finally experience that mode; it's one of my dreams, actually, because of all these vintage demos and lots of DM Wads from the 90s I have lots of DM servers on ZDaemon (and there's the Westside Connection servers on Odamex which I have rcon for as well). They're all classic-style DM, feel free to join even for some rounds unrelated to this project! My friends and I play once a week or so these days on my servers. 4 Share this post Link to post
Korp Posted June 3, 2023 Okay, i managed to quickly throw in a little track. Its a bit basic for my usual but im just testing ground here, Enjoy ;)D30 - Teleporter.zip 2 Share this post Link to post