Insanity Edged

It makes sense :) Thank you for your answer.

Any tips to find the red key in map 05?

It should be near the first open area because there is a red switch not too far away (near megasphere and invulnerability).

16 hours ago, Lord Pavis said:

Any tips to find the red key in map 05?

Ok got it, thank you. I'm now in map 8 and 

8 hours ago, Lord Pavis said:

Ok got it, thank you. I'm now in map 8 and 

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I need to find all the logs again... The C log still eludes me!

 

And since you're pretty much at the end; I hope you enjoyed playing the mod.

I finished the mod with

Wow! The mapset, the atmosphere were really incredible and you trully deserve the cacoward. The only concern for we was

Congratulations for your mod.

Finished this one and Winter's fury!

Amazing wads, I hope to see a new encounter!

hey I was just wondering, is there a place where we can see where all the music used in this mod is from? I know that some of the track names are in the ending credits but is there also a text document or something?

Inside the .pk3 there is a credits lump, which contains a slightly more detailed list of credits. If you find anything missing, let me know.

Honestly not sure whether better practice is to have it outside the .pk3 or not, I just did it this way to keep it all in one file, rather than making a zip on-top of the pk3. Same for the readme.

Oh right, I keep forgetting how pk3 files work, I'll see what I can find. Thanks!

8 hours ago, bowserknight said:

Oh right, I keep forgetting how pk3 files work, I'll see what I can find. Thanks!

You can also check the DoomWiki page for soundtrack information.

1 hour ago, Dynamo said:

You can also check the DoomWiki page for soundtrack information.

ah thanks!

Wow, Insanity Edged was an experience. I started playing Friday evening, and finished yesterday. This kind of storytelling is what I always long for in most types of media; you've done a great job of putting it together in Doom of all places.

I feel like I probably played but didn't finish or get very far in Winter's Fury whenever it first came out, but I'll definitely do that next... and then maybe replay IE to try and find all of the specific hidden items (which I found zero of during my first playthrough). I'm a lurker by nature, but the quality of this drew me out of the non-existence to let you know you did an EXCELLENT job. Thank you so much. This meant more to me than many studio-release video games I've played in the past several years. 

13 minutes ago, Aquashark said:

I feel like I probably played but didn't finish or get very far in Winter's Fury whenever it first came out, but I'll definitely do that next... and then maybe replay IE to try and find all of the specific hidden items (which I found zero of during my first playthrough). I'm a lurker by nature, but the quality of this drew me out of the non-existence to let you know you did an EXCELLENT job. Thank you so much. This meant more to me than many studio-release video games I've played in the past several years. 

Good luck with that, some of the hidden items are pretty hard to find, some even require you to do something out of the ordinary. They were probably way simpler to find in Winter's Fury. 

19 hours ago, Aquashark said:

Wow, Insanity Edged was an experience. I started playing Friday evening, and finished yesterday. This kind of storytelling is what I always long for in most types of media; you've done a great job of putting it together in Doom of all places.

I'm really glad that you enjoyed it, even more so that you really enjoyed the storytelling! I love to put a lot of focus into trying to tell stories with my mods, even if that's never really been a core tenet of why people enjoy Doom. As a fellow lurker, to know that Insanity Edged particularly stood out enough to you for you to comment on it makes me very happy.

19 hours ago, bowserknight said:

Good luck with that, some of the hidden items are pretty hard to find, some even require you to do something out of the ordinary. They were probably way simpler to find in Winter's Fury. 

If you want cryptic hints that don't help at all, remember to type SECRET in the console!

I realized I never wrote about my experience with this after playing it in January, but seeing Aquashark post about it reminded me. Man, was this great! The atmosphere of this WAD is top-notch. I love how it starts off "normal," but gets weirder as you go on and more unsettling. It has been quite a long time since I've played Winter's Fury, but I still picked up on a lot of the threads that call back to it. Just going back in to that universe was nice, and was something I had been waiting for ever since playing it years ago. Some spoilery thoughts in terms of maps and themes:

I'm still going to have to replay this and find all of the logs so I can get the other ending. I found 3 I think. The Doomwiki page seems to show where they are, but I noticed the explanations for the logs in the final map my be inaccurate, since I think it was said in here that the keys are placed in multiple spots, and a few descriptions mention specific key locations. I'm sure if I take the time to explore, I'll be able to find them. Overall, the way this WAD screws with your expectations and the conventions of Doom, while keeping the story started by Winter's Fury going and just as engaging, makes this a very worthy sequel! And, of course, the actual gameplay is fun too! Absolutely loved everything about this, and I hope the next installment doesn't take as long to come out as this one did (no biggie if it does tho).

5 hours ago, TJG1289 said:

It has been quite a long time since I've played Winter's Fury, but I still picked up on a lot of the threads that call back to it. Just going back in to that universe was nice, and was something I had been waiting for ever since playing it years ago.

It's really cool that there are some people like yourself who have been interested in seeing a follow-up for a long time. I'm glad that it seemed to live up to your expectations!

5 hours ago, TJG1289 said:

The Doomwiki page seems to show where they are, but I noticed the explanations for the logs in the final map my be inaccurate, since I think it was said in here that the keys are placed in multiple spots, and a few descriptions mention specific key locations. I'm sure if I take the time to explore, I'll be able to find them.

I had seen this problem as well. I wanted to change it, but I wasn't sure if it was correct etiquette to update the page for my own mod. Feels kinda self-centred??? I don't know.

So I've finished Winter's Fury with all the logfiles. It was fun - I feel like the atmosphere in general was lighter than Insanity Edged? But maybe that's just due to the nature of Elliot versus Jacob (or perhaps a factor relating to their individual relationships with another certain character).

But now going back through Insanity Edged and trying to find all the logfiles, I've made a critical error and was wondering if you could offer any help...

6 hours ago, Aquashark said:

But now going back through Insanity Edged and trying to find all the logfiles, I've made a critical error and was wondering if you could offer any help...

 

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In MAP03, I didn't catch on to the fact I'm supposed to shoot one of the TAO team -- largely because I'm using info on the DoomWiki to find the logfiles (I know, I know, it's dishonorable, but I spent so much time in the original playthrough looking for secrets, now I just hunger for the lore I missed with as little pain as possible). On the Doomwiki, it says "Take the path north from the boss chamber and at the closed door, jump up on the west side to find a passage leading around the door. Cross the bridge and you will find five logbooks as you go." Which is... just not correct as far as I can tell. EDIT: well, it's correct AFTER you get the red key and open the door :p So I ended up saving during the boss battle... with no way to go back before and kill the marine for the key. >_<
I've tried deleting my save files so if I die during the fight with Diablo it'll boot me back to the beginning of the level... but here is the main question, I guess:
Is there a way to check and see what log files the player has currently?
I worry about continuing, just in case dying and restarting clears the logfiles collected from previous levels. Thanks!

 

Without having a PC in front of me to test, I'm mostly confident that you can use the difficulty changer in the main menu (Mod Setup->Gameplay) to reset the map without making a new game state. Just change the difficulty to something else, let the level reset, and then change it back to the difficulty you were on.

I definitely tested this when I made the feature, so again. Mostly confident.

EDIT: I've gone through and tested: It does work, your progress is safe.

On 3/5/2024 at 4:36 AM, Pieruskwurje said:

I had seen this problem as well. I wanted to change it, but I wasn't sure if it was correct etiquette to update the page for my own mod. Feels kinda self-centred??? I don't know.

Updating is fine, creating a little bit less so.

See here: https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom_Wiki:FAQ#Can_I_write_an_article_about_my_mod.3F

hey man a little late but winters fury was very cool, gonna check this out this weekend :)

posted a review of this into the Wad Reviews thread. Spoiler, I loved it.

Thanks for going to the extra effort to write a big review! I'm really happy to hear you enjoyed it.

FYI about the .obj files: The vast majority of them (all of them, even) were originally made within the editor like a normal doom map, and then exported as a .obj using features inbuilt into the editor. I have copies of the maps where the 3D models are still actual solid map geometry, like what you'd normally get in a doom map, in case I ever want to 'edit' the models. So if you're thinking "how can this be done in a map editor", it actually can be!

The primary reason parts of the maps were converted to 3D geometry is to increase the framerate, as I understand a bunch of collision code (among other things) is skipped over without the extra parts of the map. The start area of MAP08 is probably the best example of this, as this would have been easier to leave as normal map geometry. Converting it to models involved splitting the model into various different components, as while they can be lit by dynamic lights, they can all only have a single static brightness value. This means to mimic how the map was originally lit, the area geometry was split into 5 and 7 models for the centre and side ceilings respectively, which are now stacked on top of one another.

Pieruskwurje, I am absolutely astounded at how much creativity, time and effort you put into the non-gameplay aspects of this, for the sake of the atmosphere and story. This is brilliant. Thank you for sharing it with us!

My interpretation of the story:

Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts and ideas! I really do appreciate it. No confirming or denying of course; we'll just have to wait to see what comes next.

Well the somewhat renewed attention this is getting reminded me I never actually finished this after I made my initial video on it last year. Yesterday I sat down and started again on Map 2 (actual map 2, not the one you get when you select it from the main menu) and finished the whole thing.

Let me just say - I don't get excited about GZDoom content the way I used to, but holy shit the technical mastery at play in this project is an absolute marvel. Naturally, the physical world is gorgeously detailed, making excelling use of the advanced engine features, and the gameplay and combat design is engaging with clever use of scripting to create real dramatic moments during fights with the way waves play out and arenas change...but honestly the presentation and story take this to an entirely different level that I wasn't exactly prepared for. I think from the point that things take a sharp turn at the end of the first "map" (episode?) all the way through the end, and the way the world begins to essentially slowly split apart at the seams...monitors displaying strange messages, the subtle hint that things are going off the rails...it was truly captivating in a way that Doom rarely is for me these days.

I've been thinking about the story and the ending and I only wish there was more discussion I could comb through, because I have so many questions. One thing in particular - since I essentially restarted my progress partway through the first episode, I don't have the first map's logbook in my inventory...is there a way I can trigger the alternate ending or add the missing log to my inventory if I found all the rest? I'd love to say it gives a sound reason to go back thru and play it again (and in fact, it genuinely does)...but at this point where I am in life, it's a marvel that I manage to finish anything at all, let alone be able to play something twice.

Either way, stellar stuff, I can't recommend this enough, and I hope people who might have passed on it b/c it's GZDoom consider giving it a second look because damn it's some of the coolest Doom I've played in a long time.

1 hour ago, LVENdead said:

One thing in particular - since I essentially restarted my progress partway through the first episode, I don't have the first map's logbook in my inventory...is there a way I can trigger the alternate ending or add the missing log to my inventory if I found all the rest?

While the logs aren't required for story comprehension, they are made for people interested enough to go looking for discussion to comb through. They might give you a different point of view.

Thank you for playing and commenting regardless!

This is extremely impressive.  And the best part is it's not just the same old traps you see everywhere.  A lot of care was obviously put into gameplay balance.  The additional speed of the weapons is very satisfying.

After playing some more, I am even more impressed with the story and visual design, but I do feel like there is too much searching for switches, which lead to more switches, which lead to more traps.  I'd love to see gameplay that moves to and from different types of areas.  I think that is something that could push it over the type.  But I really like the Quake, Duke3D, HL kind of vibes with some of the individual pieces of these levels.  But it did get to a point around map04 where I'm like, "OK, where's the exit, everything here looks the same.  It looks AMAZING....but it looks the same, and I can't tell where I'm supposed to go."

9 hours ago, KevvyLava said:

After playing some more, I am even more impressed with the story and visual design, but I do feel like there is too much searching for switches, which lead to more switches, which lead to more traps.  I'd love to see gameplay that moves to and from different types of areas.  I think that is something that could push it over the type.  But I really like the Quake, Duke3D, HL kind of vibes with some of the individual pieces of these levels.  But it did get to a point around map04 where I'm like, "OK, where's the exit, everything here looks the same.  It looks AMAZING....but it looks the same, and I can't tell where I'm supposed to go."

I think feedback I've received indicates that MAP04 definitely had the most instances of people getting lost, due to the sheer nature of it being a big, dark, fully indoors, interconnected, unlinear maze. I doubt I would change the structure of the map at this point (I kinda like it like that), but I did toy with the idea of allowing the player to exit with only 2 keys rather than 3, to prevent every single part of the map requiring to be explored. Or perhaps better signposting of the exit would help?

Either way, I hope you find the rest of the experience to be a bit less frustrating.