Give Me All Your Love [-cl21]

As promised, was able to give this map all my love, great experience

colors look fantastic. great job!

Interesting choice of textures and overall level palette

Mood mapping? In 2024? Why yes, my love...

Congrats on the release!

Fantastic map!! Hope you're proud of it, because you should be <3

Viridian and purple romance? Hell yes!

Edit: Back with first time impressions after spending more time with it than I thought I would (about 25 mins). 

The good:

- the fights are very engaging and cool, with some really interesting challenges. The final fight is really epic and quite tricky, I was caught very off guard;

- the color combinations and the vibes are excellent;

- I love the MIDI;

- the epilogue is wholesome in a very melancholic way;

The bad:

- the secrets are beyond obscure. I could find none in my blind run, had to open UDB to see what's going on. Managed to trigger 2 of the 3 but I still have no idea how to reach the berserk and the non-secret supercharges even after opening the editor (arch-vile jump required for the supercharges?);

- the sprites are a bit rough and could use some shading work. I'm annoyed by the new wavy cursor replacing the traditional blinking skull because it covers too much of the menu font. There's an associated problem when you try to pick the difficulty - only "true love" can be read, the rest are just blanks;

- Minor point: the wavy platforms are a bit frustrating to navigate and you can easily fall off;

All in all, good and enjoyable! No dealbreakers here, and I'd really like to record a UV max run of your map. Would really appreciate a hint for the berserk secret and the soul spheres :)

I freaking loved it :)

Amazing job Dashie :D!

Awesome map. I had just as much fun playing it as it did exploring it. Great work, and thanks for sharing with us.

Cosmic law has banned my love from this timeline so I can't give any of my own, but I can give you an FDA.  Here, in case you enjoy seeing someone face-plant against the final fight for ten minutes (-dsdademo in DSDA-Doom 0.27.2).

noisy_urlove_fda.zip

Good level, modest length, very pretty.  May be a deep allegory for relationship related issues... or could secretly be an excuse for the author to exercise their hidden tentacle fetish.  Either way:

This map has lots of edges and bumpiness that can catch you off guard or entangle you as you move around, but I like this (and is symbolically on theme..?).  Too many mappers sand down their map geometry for a "smooth" moving experience.  Nonsense, I say, although I'm in the minority on this issue.

Thanks for sharing.

Managed to find the last button for the zerk secret, yay me. Now to practice those fights...

24 minutes ago, NoisyVelvet said:

Too many mappers sand down their map geometry for a "smooth" moving experience.  Nonsense, I say, although I'm in the minority on this issue.

If you put it that way, I guess it makes sense to look at it as a positive thing. Doom is quite blocky so the presence of curved geometry does add beauty and variety, it's just a tad tricky to navigate those platforms :D

I liked the module tracker music that you've put in the map.

The green and purple palettes as well with the combat reminds me of Stardate 20x6 that I just finished for the new years.

Yes, just yes s2

Decided to give this little map a try. Gotta say as one pony DWF member to another, I LOVED the face replacement! <3 The teal-purple colour palette is wonderful to look at and visually, this map is pure joy through and through! At least of what I could tolerate...

So you know the whole "some easy-to-medium combat"? Maybe our definitions of easy are different but I wouldn't call anything harder than Plutonia Easy-Medium. XD Yeah I did honestly give this a try but jesus that purple trap is really unforgiving, especially since its a cramped room with 2 cybies, several caco's and PE's along with Pinkies who really do like to eat my backside for some reason. >_>

Despite the pretty harsh difficulty, I DO recommend people give this a try! :D

Love hurts and love is a battlefield according to a pair of great philosophers and that's exactly what this map does! Although perhaps calling it medium-difficulty because it isn't as overcooked as what the speedrunning community normally practices is not particularly accurate. Still, the presence of damage-floors practically everywhere is indeed, true to life and having had a toxic relationship with a friend basically end recently, I know all too well what that's like!

this map is absolutely gorgeous, I love seeing colorful maps and I haven't seen purple get much love in Doom, so i greatly enjoyed this map's aesthetics.
difficulty wise I think it's pretty alright, though I think my struggles are more owed to the fact I'm not very good at Doom, but I definitely do think people should give this map a shot to see what's in store

Bio's Rule of Thumb for Doom Maps:

The prettier it is, the nastier it is.

Gorgeous, spicy and downright infuriating at times, but is a solid experience all around. Nice work, Dashie!

Looks beautiful from the screenshots...

Great map, although difficult !

Loved the atmosphere.

Still one secret to find... maybe another well hidden switch ?

Two remarks :

- even if it's anecdotic, me and my mediocre level of gameplay managed to fall in the beginning and even with the instant death you can see missing texture at the bottom of the cliff just before the entering switch

- maybe it's bad gzdoom physics but the archvile appearing in front of the plasma gun has a tenedency to fall and so is sometimes non-killable.

23 minutes ago, apichatpong said:

- maybe it's bad gzdoom physics but the archvile appearing in front of the plasma gun has a tenedency to fall and so is sometimes non-killable.

Not 100% certain about this but the problem might be due to the finnicky support that GZ has for MBF21. I recommend using DSDA.

12 minutes ago, DreadWanderer said:

 

Not 100% certain about this but the problem might be due to the finnicky support that GZ has for MBF21. I recommend using DSDA.

That's what I thought... but my macOS is too old for the dsda doom launchers and when I try to upgrade it, it bugs... so, for now, i have to stay with gzdoom for cl21... anyway,, this thing with the archvile is anecdotic since i'm not a completist speedrunner and, to be honest, it even helped me in this difficult map :) (even if, reading your first post about this map, it might forbid me to reach the "archvile jump" soul sphere ?

This was a really good map.  I enjoyed the more curvey details, as I've also been starting to put similar stuff In my own maps, just inspiration to do more!  

1 hour ago, apichatpong said:

That's what I thought... but my macOS is too old for the dsda doom launchers and when I try to upgrade it, it bugs... so, for now, i have to stay with gzdoom for cl21... anyway,, this thing with the archvile is anecdotic since i'm not a completist speedrunner and, to be honest, it even helped me in this difficult map :) (even if, reading your first post about this map, it might forbid me to reach the "archvile jump" soul sphere ?

Yes if the archvile gets knocked over then I see no other way to get the double supercharge but who knows.

Beautiful map with engaging fights! 

Amazing work!

hihi everyone! when i woke up and opened DW i got blasted with love and feedback from you guys. thank you all a lot, i didn't expect this map to have such a warm welcome 💜
i've read all posts and watched most demos/videos, but before replying to some stuff i'll tell you changes i made for RC2 (download in the OP!)

smol changes:

now to some quotes! (i'm so sorry if i missed something)

21 hours ago, DreadWanderer said:

- the secrets are beyond obscure. I could find none in my blind run, had to open UDB to see what's going on. Managed to trigger 2 of the 3 but I still have no idea how to reach the berserk and the non-secret supercharges even after opening the editor (arch-vile jump required for the supercharges?);

- the sprites are a bit rough and could use some shading work. I'm annoyed by the new wavy cursor replacing the traditional blinking skull because it covers too much of the menu font. There's an associated problem when you try to pick the difficulty - only "true love" can be read, the rest are just blanks;

- Minor point: the wavy platforms are a bit frustrating to navigate and you can easily fall off;

- personally i don't think secrets are that obscure, especially with peaking in UDB, cus people who playtested it didn't have much trouble. but i'm sorry to hear you had a hard time finding them tho! i was thinking about making them more visible, but after watching some more playtests i think i'll leave them as it is, feel free to bonk me for that:>
- the only sprite that didn't have any shading is M_SKULL and i've fixed that, thanks for pointing it out! but not so sure if you're saying that about hand sprites too. again, personally i think they look pretty and yeah, a bit cartoony, as i wanted:) (same with titlepic, interpic, help, bunny scroller and the end after scroller. i wanted to make them more detailed, but i prefer the sketchy version for some strange reasons)

and speaking about the menu - i know that it's covering a lot of text, and that's what i wanted to do:) (took GOODWAD as some inspiration) it feels like those vines are absorbing that text just like dashie's heart. and... yeah all other difficulties are purposely blank cus there's only UV
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15 hours ago, DynamiteKaitorn said:

So you know the whole "some easy-to-medium combat"? Maybe our definitions of easy are different but I wouldn't call anything harder than Plutonia Easy-Medium. XD Yeah I did honestly give this a try but jesus that purple trap is really unforgiving, especially since its a cramped room with 2 cybies, several caco's and PE's along with Pinkies who really do like to eat my backside for some reason. >_>

 - i apologize for misadvertising the difficulty of this wad, i kinda fricked up here, heh. i'll change this part in OP <3 i tried to make a hidden HMP, but sadly i couldn't make these fights easier without making them boring:ccc if anyone playing this is having a hard time, please don't feel bad about using cheats and bonking me for making dogshit 6

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1 hour ago, DreadWanderer said:

 

Yes if the archvile gets knocked over then I see no other way to get the double supercharge but who knows.

- and yes, this is an AJV non-secret secret! i wanted to put something in that small cavern, but making it a real secret felt a bit too mean

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3 hours ago, apichatpong said:

- maybe it's bad gzdoom physics but the archvile appearing in front of the plasma gun has a tenedency to fall and so is sometimes non-killable.

- and yeah this is just a gzdoom thingy. it doesn't have a great mbf21 support and i don't usually test my maps with gz:p

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19 hours ago, NoisyVelvet said:

or could secretly be an excuse for the author to exercise their hidden tentacle fetish.

- LMAO i called a comment like this. i think i'll have to point out that those green vines are not tentacles (even tho they look like ones, i admit that xd). this is a moody map as i said in OP and well... you know that feeling when you feel something so heavy in your chest, squeezing your heart and making you want to tear your chest inside out? well those vines (or tentacles, if you wish hehe) is how i usually picture that feeling. usually i draw them black, but here i felt like teal would be a better company for purple, heh. when you find a radsuit secret, you understand that green liquid is not just acid and it represents some more painful stuff

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sorry for the longpost, and again, thank you ALL for playing this and leaving such nice comments, even if i don't reply to all of them i absolutely appreciate every one of them and it made me smile for sure!💜
 

ALSO P.S.! i'm kind of a dummy for writing in the OP that this is a single map. while there is only one map that has combat in it, the second map does exist, and a pretty ending after it exists too. so make sure you don't miss it, i'm sure you'll like it! 

Hey @dashiefrickintyan, thanks a lot for taking the time to reply to my comments. I did alright in the end, it just took me an inordinate amount of time to UV max saveless because I continue to suck at this game. Anyway here's the run, complete with epilogue. I'm not too happy with how I approached things but it is what it is. Thanks for the ride!

1 hour ago, dashiefrickintyan said:

 - i apologize for misadvertising the difficulty of this wad, i kinda fricked up here, heh. i'll change this part in OP <3 i tried to make a hidden HMP, but sadly i couldn't make these fights easier without making them boring:ccc if anyone playing this is having a hard time, please don't feel bad about using cheats and bonking me for making dogshit 6

 

To me it was advertised correctly, but everyones medium skill is different.  I do the same thing tho, if I'm making a map and I'm not engaged enough while testing it, then that's a problem haha. 

Gorgeous map!  I found the difficulty totally reasonable, not too hard at all.  Really enjoyed it from start to finish, I'm very partial to maps with lots of purple.

hiya again! thanks again for more kind words and epic playthroughs💜

while i was attempting a UV-Max of this, i got really annoyed by some stuff + i noticed some fuck-ups in rc2 soooooo i apologize to people who already recorded demos, but RC3 is here! this version will go to idgames, so yeah:p 

omega smol list of changes (download in OP!):
 

(also holy shit this wad has more spheres than any other stuff i've posted. thank you all again sooooo much <3)