Laz Rojas - an old Doomer in trouble.

i might be way too late on this but after reading this, i shed a tear and it made my stomach hurl

its disgusting how much destruction the authorities can do with one wrong move

just like laz said, even if he is free now, the damage has been done

i usually have silly thoughts in the back of my mind when reading stuff like this, but this one was to insane, this made my mind clear and geniuenly just fall into a never ending rabbithole of how fucking fucked up what they did to laz was

i fucking hate whoever made the lie of laz abusing her mother, god bless the mother and laz, good for laz for thus he made it this far without losing his touch with reality and being on the road of suicide, really well done by laz, i hope he is alive and well now

7 hours ago, Laz Rojas said:

I think my lawyers have been stringing me along and taking me for a ride. It's been nearly seven months since I signed the contract with them and nothing seems to be happening thus far. After various attempts to contact them which went unanswered, they told me in early December that they were finalizing the draft of my complaint and filing it in January. I've made several attempts to contact them since early January and have yet to hear a thing. My emails and phone calls go unreturned. I have no idea what's going on, if anything is being done at all. After everything that was done to me and how my life was ruined to the extent of a lifetime of intellectual property being permanently lost, the only thing that could possibly happen that would be even worse is for me to never get justice, for the people who did this to never be held accountable and for me to never get any compensation or restitution for any of it. For my life to remain the way they left it, in ruins, and for me to have no path forward. Better to have simply been killed than to be left like this, in a complete and total limbo between a past that was erased and a future that is being kept from beginning. I feel like I'm neither dead nor alive, as if I were still in jail, everything suspended until when? When?

At this point, I'm expecting things to get even worse. When will we see the light at the end of this treacherous tunnel?

Have you tried going directly to the lawyer's office in-person? That seems insane that your attempts at reaching out to them via email and phone have gone unanswered for this long.

21 hours ago, Laz Rojas said:

I think my lawyers have been stringing me along and taking me for a ride. It's been nearly seven months since I signed the contract with them and nothing seems to be happening thus far. After various attempts to contact them which went unanswered, they told me in early December that they were finalizing the draft of my complaint and filing it in January. I've made several attempts to contact them since early January and have yet to hear a thing. My emails and phone calls go unreturned. I have no idea what's going on, if anything is being done at all. After everything that was done to me and how my life was ruined to the extent of a lifetime of intellectual property being permanently lost, the only thing that could possibly happen that would be even worse is for me to never get justice, for the people who did this to never be held accountable and for me to never get any compensation or restitution for any of it. For my life to remain the way they left it, in ruins, and for me to have no path forward. Better to have simply been killed than to be left like this, in a complete and total limbo between a past that was erased and a future that is being kept from beginning. I feel like I'm neither dead nor alive, as if I were still in jail, everything suspended until when? When?

Did you pay them any kind of deposit? I again also have to ask, is there really nowhere else in the country you can go? Friends and family who might be able to take you in? 

8 hours ago, Murdoch said:

 

Did you pay them any kind of deposit? I again also have to ask, is there really nowhere else in the country you can go? Friends and family who might be able to take you in? 

No family worth mentioning. They're in Miami, but my mother and I split from them over a decade ago. And after I was arrested, the DA's office reached out to them and told them I'd killed my mother. None of them will ever respond to me again even though all of it was a lie. What the police and the DA did to me and my life is beyond comprehension.

As for the lawyers, I never paid them anything. They took the case on a contingency basis.

8 hours ago, Lizardcommando said:

Have you tried going directly to the lawyer's office in-person? That seems insane that your attempts at reaching out to them via email and phone have gone unanswered for this long.

I've wanted to go several times, but I haven't dared do it for fear of what might happen. I really don't know what to expect if I were to just show up. It's reached the point where I'm going to ask the people at the Center for Health Justice if one of them will accompany me to be a witness.

1 hour ago, Laz Rojas said:

No family worth mentioning. They're in Miami, but my mother and I split from them over a decade ago. And after I was arrested, the DA's office reached out to them and told them I'd killed my mother. None of them will ever respond to me again even though all of it was a lie. What the police and the DA did to me and my life is beyond comprehension.

Damn :(

I've been catching up on what has happened to you during the past few months and boy, is that a sad, depressing story. One wouldn't think one person alone could have such a massive amount of bad luck, but here we go. Shockingly, it is also depicturing a hostile system in which everyone who fails to fulfill certain (wealth) standards "falls through the sieve", so to speak. 

At this point (if not already before), this is movie material. They should make one about the story of your life and every cent earned with it should go directly to your bank account. I don't know what else to say other than how sorry I am for what happened (and keeps happening) to you. Your perseverance and endurance in this seemingly neverending sequence of crises is admirable.

9 hours ago, Laz Rojas said:

I've wanted to go several times, but I haven't dared do it for fear of what might happen. I really don't know what to expect if I were to just show up. It's reached the point where I'm going to ask the people at the Center for Health Justice if one of them will accompany me to be a witness.

You are intelligent and well-spoken, and if you were able to clean up before going then I would hope that they don't just shoo you out the door. But you would probably have to keep your manner calm and collected while feeling like you want to smash their desks. I've never worked with a law firm but I assume that without any up-front payment at all, they will not put you high on their priority list. You could politely ask them if a deposit would help move things along. Courts are ridiculously slow so maybe they just haven't heard back?

I'm trying to think of things we could do to help. But I'm worried that if we all start calling up this firm and harassing them then they might just drop the case :(

On 2/14/2024 at 11:41 PM, Laz Rojas said:

I think my lawyers have been stringing me along and taking me for a ride. It's been nearly seven months since I signed the contract with them and nothing seems to be happening thus far. After various attempts to contact them which went unanswered, they told me in early December that they were finalizing the draft of my complaint and filing it in January. I've made several attempts to contact them since early January and have yet to hear a thing. My emails and phone calls go unreturned. I have no idea what's going on, if anything is being done at all. After everything that was done to me and how my life was ruined to the extent of a lifetime of intellectual property being permanently lost, the only thing that could possibly happen that would be even worse is for me to never get justice, for the people who did this to never be held accountable and for me to never get any compensation or restitution for any of it. For my life to remain the way they left it, in ruins, and for me to have no path forward. Better to have simply been killed than to be left like this, in a complete and total limbo between a past that was erased and a future that is being kept from beginning. I feel like I'm neither dead nor alive, as if I were still in jail, everything suspended until when? When?

You don't deserve to be tortured like this.

Everything that's happened to you is more than worthy of a MrBallen video, more people need to know about this; for the lack of a better word, horrific injustice to you and the complete and total systematic failure of our country's legal and justice laws. I just checked this thread now to make sure you were okay/still kicking. I hope you find your way out of this nightmare, I really do.

@Laz Rojas I recommend reaching out to the Institute for Justice. They are not a typical law firm: they are a non-profit organization that among other things, litigates cases that involve egregious violations of Constitutional rights.

I cannot say for sure that this is the type of case they would litigate, but a public prosecutor using a heavy hand to fabricate charges against someone he clearly did not like should at least get your foot in the door with the IJ.

They run off of donations and probably a cut of the court winnings like most lawyers, so it should not cost you anything.

It appears they do not have a physical presence anywhere in California, so you will need to reach out online.

Maybe a stupid idea, and as I am (luckily) living in another country far away from such religious, political and legal dogmas, I am not sure if it is common sense in your part of the world, but could you not simply go public an publish the names of your lawyers? We could plaster them with petitions and payola....

I called my lawyers again yesterday and left another message on their voicemail. They finally responded this time, by email. They basically repeated what they told me back in early December, that they're finalizing the draft of my complaint and are going to be filing it afterward. More than two months have passed since they told me the same thing and things don't appear to have progressed. I really don't know what to think anymore.

Earlier tonight, I went to the park where I sleep on a bench only to find the situation there worse than ever. The park closes at 10 PM, and the cops would sometimes come by between 10 and midnight and kick everyone out. Whenever they did that, I'd leave, wait an hour or so, and then go back and go to sleep on the bench anyway. They never came back a second time on those occasions. Tonight, two cops came up to me at 9 PM, shined a light in my face, and warned me to leave by 10. They also said they'd be back periodically to check, and that they'd cite anyone in the park after 10.

This is the first time they've ever done that. They had no right to approach me and shine a light in my face when the park was still open. And if they do come back periodically, then I won't be able to return as I've done before. I stayed there till 10:30 and left to sit at a nearby bus stop bench to post this message, and as I left, their car returned to the park. They didn't see me, but now I fear they really will continue to check all through the night.

This is what my life has become. I have no idea where I'm gonna sleep tonight or tomorrow night or any night from this point forward. What in God's name am I going to do? Where and how am I gonna get any more sleep? And if I hang around here and try to see if the coast is clear, it's gonna be a game of cat and mouse and the stress of wondering if they're gonna show up on any given night is gonna wear me down even more so both emotionally and psychologically. I can't imagine going through this night after night after night. 

I returned to the park Thursday night around 11:30 and sat on the bench and waited till 1:30. The cops didn't show up again, so I went to sleep. Woke up at 6:30 AM, half an hour after the park opens, so I guess they were bluffing about checking periodically and I called their bluff.

Last night was a different story. They drove into the park at 9 PM and warned everybody to leave at 10. As I was walking out at 10, they drove in again, circled quickly and drove out again. I thought maybe that was it for the night, but I still sat at the nearby bus stop and waited until 11:30 before going back into the park.

I went back to the bench where I sleep and decided to wait a while longer before risking going to sleep. At a quarter to 1 AM, I saw a police vehicle come into the park's driveway and stop. It didn't drive into the park, but as I watched, two officers got out with flashlights and turned them on. I got up and left the park in the opposite direction, then walked around the perimeter and came around the front. In the driveway were four police vehicles now, parked side by side, and several cops were searching throughout the park with the flashlights.

I can't believe the lengths they're going to, that they're assigning this much manpower to drive the homeless out of the park. You'd think they were hunting some criminal who'd fled the scene of a crime and was hiding out in the park. It was absolute overkill, the worst I'd seen yet.

I waited at the bus stop until they left, which was almost an hour later, then went back into the park and sat on my bench. I felt like a soldier caught behind enemy lines during a war, sneaking around and observing the enemy while trying not to be seen. I was pleased that I'd outsmarted them and managed to stay under the radar despite their efforts, but the whole experience was nerve-racking and adding insult to injury after everything else that I've endured for the past two years. I finally went to sleep and they never came back, but I slept for only three hours thanks to all the delay. Who can live this way?

9 minutes ago, Laz Rojas said:

I returned to the park Thursday night around 11:30 and sat on the bench and waited till 1:30. The cops didn't show up again, so I went to sleep. Woke up at 6:30 AM, half an hour after the park opens, so I guess they were bluffing about checking periodically and I called their bluff.

 

Last night was a different story. They drove into the park at 9 PM and warned everybody to leave at 10. As I was walking out at 10, they drove in again, circled quickly and drove out again. I thought maybe that was it for the night, but I still sat at the nearby bus stop and waited until 11:30 before going back into the park.

 

I went back to the bench where I sleep and decided to wait a while longer before risking going to sleep. At a quarter to 1 AM, I saw a police vehicle come into the park's driveway and stop. It didn't drive into the park, but as I watched, two officers got out with flashlights and turned them on. I got up and left the park in the opposite direction, then walked around the perimeter and came around the front. In the driveway were four police vehicles now, parked side by side, and several cops were searching throughout the park with the flashlights.

 

I can't believe the lengths they're going to, that they're assigning this much manpower to drive the homeless out of the park. You'd think they were hunting some criminal who'd fled the scene of a crime and was hiding out in the park. It was absolute overkill, the worst I'd seen yet.

 

I waited at the bus stop until they left, which was almost an hour later, then went back into the park and sat on my bench. I felt like a soldier caught behind enemy lines during a war, sneaking around and observing the enemy while trying not to be seen. I was pleased that I'd outsmarted them and managed to stay under the radar despite their efforts, but the whole experience was nerve-racking and adding insult to injury after everything else that I've endured for the past two years. I finally went to sleep and they never came back, but I slept for only three hours thanks to all the delay. Who can live this way?

 

respect for you man, the effort these people and cops are doing to prevent such a thing is sad, stay strong, i hope you manage or find an alternative or even better

This is terrible. Is there anyone remotely nearby who can lend Laz a couch to sleep on for just a while? It's a lot to ask, but I'm sure he'd be willing to try to contribute towards rent in return. It's a lot easier to find a job of any kind if you have somewhere safe to sleep and you can take showers.

On 2/24/2024 at 2:24 PM, Laz Rojas said:

I can't believe the lengths they're going to, that they're assigning this much manpower to drive the homeless out of the park. You'd think they were hunting some criminal who'd fled the scene of a crime and was hiding out in the park. It was absolute overkill, the worst I'd seen yet.

 

I felt like a soldier caught behind enemy lines during a war, sneaking around and observing the enemy while trying not to be seen.

And they wonder why people want the police to be defunded.

I know exactly what you mean from painful experience, you are made to feel like enemy a-number one when you're already trapped and have nothing, when all you want to do is to be left alone. You don't want to be homeless anywhere, but I would rather be homeless anywhere else other than California.

I feel the best course of action for now is to GTFO of there because living there with nothing is virtually impossible, and maybe move to somewhere more low-key and try to get a foothold.

I've had to go through this game of cat and mouse for the past several nights. They hit the park every night since last Thursday, when last year they'd do it only once or twice a month, if that. They haven't returned to the park after 1:00 AM on any of the nights, and I've been able to sneak back in and sleep after that, but as I said before, it's nerve-racking and stressful and I get only four hours of sleep max. It's inhuman, and especially for me, because I'm in the park only because of what was done to me and how they totally destroyed my life. To have to deal with this on top of everything else is absolutely obscene.

Six months ago, before the cold weather, I had the energy and the physical ability to deal with life on the street. My circumstances sucked, but I could get through it one day at a time. Now my feet ache and my right leg hurts and I don't have the stamina that I had before. I can walk no more than at half the speed I used to, and simple things take more effort than before. Everything seems like an insurmountable burden. Even my duffel bag feels twice as heavy as it used to, even though it's not. There's more rain and cold coming later this week and again by the middle of next week, and I don't know where the hell I'm going to go to avoid it.

Now I'm hearing that they want to make being homeless a crime. Can you believe that? The very system that ruined my life and made me homeless wants to punish me for being homeless. Why don't they just kill me and get it over with? They took everything from me except for my physical life, and I wish they'd taken that too. When they released me fourteen months ago, it was like kidnappers releasing a hostage by driving him out to the middle of nowhere and leaving him there with no food or water or any recourse. You cannot exaggerate how evil what they did to me, and what I'm still suffering as a result, is. You simply can't. Words fail. I seem to have but one choice: either keep struggling until all of this kills me, or finish myself off and avoid all the suffering between now and then.

2 hours ago, Laz Rojas said:

I seem to have but one choice: either keep struggling until all of this kills me, or finish myself off and avoid all the suffering between now and then.

we have hope in you, if you can get into something you can get out of it, its just sad how you have to play pin the tail on the donkey for sleep and have to become a whole ninja to get 30 minutes of alone time, but i and we believe in you, just keep on trying, keep on going, there is always a way through it, i hope you the best, there has to be a way, im sure there is, i hope you can find that way, the police are absolute brats and morons for doing such a thing, your not the only one who thinks that, i hope you can find a way and press on, best of luck to you laz

I hate to ask again, @Laz Rojas but you didn't answer it last time: Have you tried any of the homeless shelters in Pasadena? I found nine of them using Google.

8 minutes ago, Laz Rojas said:

My lawyers have filed the case. They called me last week to go over all the details and we spoke for almost two hours, then they filed it that very day. I wish I could attach a copy of the document here, but it's a pdf file. The complaint for damages reads like a laundry list -- false arrest,  false imprisonment, unreasonable search and seizure, malicious prosecution, deliberate fabrication of evidence, due process violation, etc. If I were the defendants, I'd want to settle this as quickly as possible and avoid a jury trial.

That is a promising development. Crossing my fingers for you old friend.

9 minutes ago, Laz Rojas said:

My lawyers have filed the case. They called me last week to go over all the details and we spoke for almost two hours, then they filed it that very day. I wish I could attach a copy of the document here, but it's a pdf file. The complaint for damages reads like a laundry list -- false arrest,  false imprisonment, unreasonable search and seizure, malicious prosecution, deliberate fabrication of evidence, due process violation, etc. If I were the defendants, I'd want to settle this as quickly as possible and avoid a jury trial.

All the best of luck and justice for you.

Do you mind if I suggest that you upload the PDF file on a file sharing website to share here? If you feel uncomfortable having it stay for a long time, feel free to delete the file after a while.

Get the justice you damn well deserve and then some. Even then it will never give you back the time or the personal things you've lost and I can't begin to comprehend the PTSD you've developed from what you've incurred, but justice is justice and there will be fucking karma coming for every person that has wronged you.

Glad to see progress in your case!