Doom 2 city maps aren't actually that abstract...

[zokum]

Throughout the years many have criticized the design and look of the Doom 2 citiy maps for being non-sensical, overly abstract and nothing like reality.

For about half a year though I have worked at an innovation park that looks like something out of Doom 2. I think the oldest buildings were drawn by architects around the time Doom 2 was released. As a side note, there is a nearby forest with wild bunnies. This is where Daisy lives...

I have tried to add some comments about the various locations and what they mean to me.

 

Non-orthogonal walls and red brick textures!

 

 

You can apporximate curves by loads of straight linedefs. Notice also the stylish Doom 2-esque lamp!

 

Bad texture alignment can be seen in many locations. This is NOT an extension.

 

This looks like a trap. Where is the linedef that opens up this room filled with imps?

 

The choice of material on this stair/elevator shaft is hideous. It looks like it's supposed to be on a roof. Petersenesque?

 

These windows are obviously inspired by a certain set of Doom textures.

 

You can never have too many texture and color schmes, this must be what Map 10 looks like from the outside.

 

The flats align to grid just like in Doom. There is NO location where these tiles align with any of the building, only a small green area outside.

 

Closeup of a Doom 2 style lamp and some more crazy tiling.

 

Map 13 Downtown style architecture.

 

You don't need slopes, just make a ton of small sectors.

 

This architectual trick can also be applied outside! The ground area outside the door is also pretty interesting.

 

There's so much of the architecture in this area. The innovation park alone has 9 separate buildings. A lot of the nearby buildings have similar design schemes.

 

Pictures can't quite do this area justice, there are so many weird building shapes, material choices, boxy designs and weird layouts with underground tunnels. The colors are also a bit off due to the photos being taken with a rather poor cell phone camera.

[zokum]

In case people want to browse a bit, here's a link to the location in google maps: https://goo.gl/maps/CYVYaE6pHLrVTL3i9

 

[Vorpal]

Amazing haha, but really WTF with that masonry "texture misalignment"?

[zokum]

I think it's in case the building "moves" a bit. To make it break in a controlled location without causing any damage to power, water lines, etc. There are several of these rather weird seams on the buildings in the area. Personally my favourites are the Doom 2 lamps and the KiNg_ReOL style slopes. I work in that building :).

 

[Horus]

There’s a texture misalignment in my bathroom. It never bothered me until I started Doom mapping lol

[cambreaKer]

i remember when i saw a sign and it's texture was too big and it didn't fit

[HavoX]

Well, I suppose it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that stuff out. But should it?

[wallabra]

I'm more interested in that Daisy part. :o

[DSC]

Do people seriously criticize those levels for being abstract? I mean, this is Doom, what were they expecting? And its not like the other levels are less ambiguous too...

[Mystic 256]

What about the white rocks on the ground in Downtown?

I always assumed they were suppose to be the bones of the people who used to live there before the demons invaded

[Gokuma]

On 12/20/2019 at 10:54 AM, Gustavo6046 said:

I'm more interested in that Daisy part. :o

I suspect that's because foxes eat rabbits. (Noticing your avatar)

[Juza]

This architecture itself is very abstract. Very good pictures

[Doomkid]

Poorly designed city, desperate need of texture alignment, needs more detail, no chance at a cacoward, mapper seroiously needs to learn the basics of Doom Builder, to top it all off it looks like the maps won’t even run in vanilla due to VPOs so who are these screenshots supposed to please???

 

2/5

 

 

lol

[xdarkmasterx]

O_O DUDE, what port? This is how it looks when i play it :/

 

[little egg]

someone get Jaska working on this

[reflex17]

Yo dawg, we heard u liek stacked sectors O_o

 

[Maximum Matt]

Unaligned fences are the worst.

[ketmar]

eh, that's why unexpirienced mappers should avoid slopes!

 

p.s.: also, cmon, that fence texture colors are so washed out! one of the worst wood textures i've seen on any map.

 

p.p.s.: vegetation is good, tho. but i don't even want to think how slow this map renders, with so much grass 3d models!

[Ashley_Pomeroy]

Back in 1994 a chap called Jussi Karjalainen made a reasonable copy of Mies van der Rohe's Barcelona pavilion:

 

 

 

So I think it's fair to say that the UAC's architects were heavily inspired by modernism.

[insertwackynamehere]

On 12/21/2019 at 1:27 AM, Mystic 256 said:

What about the white rocks on the ground in Downtown?

I always assumed they were suppose to be the bones of the people who used to live there before the demons invaded

I always thought that texture was actually really good for urban environments because it looks like the rocks/gravel you will see on unfinished high rise rooftops (there’s some construction reason for this use that I’m unsure of).

 

But yeah, I don’t know why it’s on the ground in Downtown.

[nname]

I can definitely relate to this, but even though Doom 2 is supposed to take place on earth I can't imagine 'modern' textures or even buildings used in the game. I still feel like the game needs a little bit of that hellish theme, (even if it's not necessarily taking place in hell). Without the grimm look the game wouldn't really fit in with the other Doom games in my opinion.

 

That being said a 'modern' texture pack for Doom 2 would definitely be an interesting thing to look into.

[seed]

32 minutes ago, xzotikk said:

I can definitely relate to this, but even though Doom 2 is supposed to take place on earth I can't imagine 'modern' textures or even buildings used in the game.

 

Hm...

 

[nname]

3 minutes ago, seed said:

 

Hm...

 

Well, take my word with a grain of salt..

[seed]

1 minute ago, xzotikk said:

Well, take my word with a grain of salt..

 

I am, it was just a joke :p .

[nname]

Just now, seed said:

 

I am, it was just a joke :p .

Got it :b

[Gokuma]

This topic is brilliant.   All the map13 haters can suck it.

[Castelia]

I thought everyone's cities had a giant arrow on the ground pointing to their nearest warehouse. You know, right next to Revenant Tower.

 

In all seriousness, I thought Doom 2's levels looked fine.

[Guest Unregistered account]

Maybe in the future parking arrows on roads look like that.

[Koko Ricky]

On 1/4/2020 at 12:24 PM, seed said:

 

Hm...

 

I live in Dallas and pass by this building all the time! There's lots of places around here that look like Doom 2 city levels.

[Castelia]

Now we just need to find a suburb that looks like Suburbs. Complete with nukage pool, a thousand monsters (they just want a dip), and everyone's favourite house full of bodies.