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A Response To Arturo's Statements

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I'm done with it. I know I said I wouldn't bother you all anymore, but I've finally been completely broken and I don't give a shit anymore, I just want it all out. I've been fucking wrong this entire time...

 

Let me explain... I saw in a magazine not too long ago an interview with a man. Its a very respectable and highly regarded magazine, BTW. It was an interview with a guy called Arturo Pérez-Reverte. He said a lot of things that made me realize how wrong and stupid I was. He talked about many things. He said that, Putin, although a "son of a bitch", also had some good aspects  and that he wasn't a complete demon. He called Zelensky someone "without political or intellectual foundations, a poor man that life made into an heroic icon... Life is full of paradoxes".  He said we switched reason for feelings, that "we feel the seals, the whales, the dolphins, the homeless. We switched Voltaire, Montesquieu, Tocqueville, Rousseau and Kant for Non-Governmental Organizations. He said rationalism is being wiped out from schools, that " it doesn't matter anymore if someone reads Voltaire, now what matters is if they feel like a man or a woman, and that their feeling have to be respected"

 

Until I defended trans rights based on principle, but... After hearing all this... I think I've been wrong all along and acted like a brainless idiot, a retarded sheep. This is one of the best selling spanish autor, a former journalist and I believe a member of the royal academy of arts or something like that. I'm a dumbass nobody without culture or anything, he's an infinitely smarter man that would absolutely break me and humiliate me in a debate. Its not some random internet troll, he's far above from all that... I'm so fucking worthless, who am I to try and argue with him? He's so much older, he's got so much more experience and everything, I'm just a SJW dipshit leftist dumbass... And this is not all.

 

See this:

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I'll translate what it roughly says to english: "Its a culture of ease. We fear traumatizing the kids with the Iliad, or with History… The main objective now is to eliminate school failure by dumbing everything down. The education systems of the western world, today, are made to normalize and despise the most intelligent. They don’t valorize the elites, the idea itself of the elite is very poorly seen and given a lot of bad press. See the mediocrity of spanish, international and portuguese politics. Where is Churchill, Adenauer, Kennedy? School doesn’t care about a singular, brilliant individual anymore. They become an outcast, and its made to be believed that everyone is equal. But we aren’t all equal!"

 

Again... He's right. We aren't equal. About dumbing down the education system, making the way harder for the actual true intellectuals to shine... The past few years I've been a complete disaster and a trainwreck. I got "saved" by this school system, and in the way I harmed those intellectuals and the ones superior to me. I shouldn't have received this help, not a failure like me. I haven't succeeded in anything, I failed at school, I failed at Doom mapping, at playing guitar, I failed in being a cultural and intellectual person who respects all the great figures he mentioned. I'm a poor stupid idiotic excuse of a man.... I've thought harming myself and ending everything before, you know what, maybe its what i should do, I'll make Arturo a favor and make the world a little better.... Cant take anything anymore. 

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Social Darwinism has been scientifically refuted since the 1960's. Unlike other life forms, humans adapt through behavior and culture -- we don't teach kids to read and write by killing all the kids who aren't born randomly able to read and write. We are not rosebushes or milk cows.

 

Depends on where you live and what your material situation is, but if you're able to talk to a counselor or therapist (as everyone in the modern world should do if they can), I'm guessing they're going to posit the view that human beings are intrinsically valuable.

 

I'm not even making a moral or spiritual argument here -- there simply is no empirical basis on which to assert that someone is "worthless".

 

The "Great Man" is a myth used to apologize for exploitation. Thomas Edison and Bill Gates took credit for work carried out for generations or centuries just because it happened to bear fruit in their presence. Also, JFK was an imperialist and Churchill was a mass murderer.

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A true intellectual doesn't read these dumbass magazines. A true intellectual does whatever he wants and does not care what other people think. You like what you're doing? Do it, you may suck at first. But that's part of the process of becoming good at something. I may be a dumbass sometimes but is that stopping me from being one or being able to create ideas and actually make them come true? No, I like doing it.

 

 

It's not worth harming yourself because someone had a cranky wanky.

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What OP doesn't seem to get is that anyone who considers themselves a "true intellectual" is utterly full of shit. Also, revering politicians either in their own era or later on is fairly pointless in general. If they're considered to be great leaders it's largely due to their skill in maintaining their own image, and often others use their names to attach themselves to a well regarded figure. Everyone who ever lived is a hypocrite, everyone has an agenda. 

 

I mean this guy is basically taking the current day hot button issue of trans identity and acting like it has some connection to philosophy while name dropping some famous people. The two are not connected whatsoever. Same deal with the war in Ukraine for fuck's sake. He's a journalist by trade, so he drops some hot takes that get him clicks and exposure to gain clout. Social media figures like this are basically always trying to form their own little toxic circle jerking cult who think the same way. No one fact checks this stuff, people agree or disagree and either way his stuff gets promoted by social media because that's how it works. It's not hard to seem intelligent in that kind of environment.

 

Don't engage with this kind of shit, it's the only way to accomplish anything in life. Play guitar how you want to, make some cool Doom maps, do whatever gives you a sense of purpose. Also, I think everyone has had a shit couple of years due to everything that's been happening, so maybe don't blame yourself for that either. 

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@DSC Why does it bother you what some hotshot intellectual tells people about the world?

Be your own judge.

 

It is okay to feel inspired by people, because inspiration leads to creativity. But what you are doing is getting negatively degressed from someone else's point of view to the point where you call yourself worthless. That's a horrible thing to say and even more so to feel.

 

That isn't what leads to creativity or is inspiring. That is destructive and negative.

 

True knowledge and science always finds a way and does not to be proclaimed because they are absolute. If this guy is stating to himself that he is a true intellectual, it doesn't mean he is knowledgeable: He is a narcissist.

 

And frankly, atleast there is one shimmer of truth in there - Our social media driven society creates these people. We love staring at small phone screens day in day out, driven by a vapid and ultimately soulless desire to feel inspired through these channels.... social media does not inspire you. The classics of old, do.

 

As soon as you realize that, you are already one step away from being what everybody else perpetuates. As long as you are aware, you are ahead.

 

I mean seriously. I am currently reading Henry David Thoreau and have Blaise Pascal's Pensees lined up. I don't read it because i feel it is the in-thing or because i want to show off that hey-i-know-things: I read it because it is fun and it keeps your mind healthy. Reading various perspectives from all kinds of topics gives you a far better picture on how the world actually works versus this famed author on social media.

 

A book doesn't judge you by its cover, so neither should you. You are worth everyone's time.

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1 hour ago, DSC said:

I think I've been wrong all along and acted like a brainless idiot, a retarded sheep. This is one of the best selling spanish autor, a former journalist and I believe a member of the royal academy of arts or something like that. I'm a dumbass nobody without culture or anything, he's an infinitely smarter man that would absolutely break me and humiliate me in a debate. Its not some random internet troll, he's far above from all that... I'm so fucking worthless, who am I to try and argue with him? He's so much older, he's got so much more experience and everything, I'm just a SJW dipshit leftist dumbass... And this is not all.

nah, lol. success doesn't equate to any sort of actual intelligence; in this case, all it really means is that the guy is good with words and can say really stupid shit while dressing it up to make it sound smart. if you want proof of this, just start really digging into what he's saying and fact check a bit of it, and you'll start seeing right through the thin veneer of intellectualism

 

just think about it this way: if someone somehow manages to convince you that shoving bananas up your asshole can cure cancer, does that really make that true? of course it doesn't, it just makes them a really good liar is all

 

1 hour ago, DSC said:

Again... He's right. We aren't equal. About dumbing down the education system, making the way harder for the actual true intellectuals to shine... The past few years I've been a complete disaster and a trainwreck. I got "saved" by this school system, and in the way I harmed those intellectuals and the ones superior to me. I shouldn't have received this help, not a failure like me. I haven't succeeded in anything, I failed at school, I failed at Doom mapping, at playing guitar, I failed in being a cultural and intellectual person who respects all the great figures he mentioned. I'm a poor stupid idiotic excuse of a man.... I've thought harming myself and ending everything before, you know what, maybe its what i should do, I'll make Arturo a favor and make the world a little better.... Cant take anything anymore.  

except that he's not right in the slightest. lemme put it to you this way, just so you can see past your self-deprecation and realize what he's really saying: he's bitching and moaning about how, instead of boiling history down to great man theory, history classes are trying to not ignore nuance. that's it, that's his grievance. does that sound like anything resembling intellectualism to you?

 

btw, don't be so hard on yourself simply because you haven't become "successful" in the eyes of society, or because you haven't found something you truly excel in yet. don't take your own life, find your own version of success. it happens to everyone eventually, you just gotta keep on going until you find something you feel comfortable with, y'know? you have your whole life ahead of you, don't cut it short because the inevitable has yet to happen

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1 hour ago, DSC said:

I've thought harming myself and ending everything before, you know what, maybe its what i should do, I'll make Arturo a favor and make the world a little better.... Cant take anything anymore. 

 

I'll be blunt, it sounds like you're about to have your "moment". When it comes to suicide, nobody truly knows what they are going to do until they have their "moment", their crisis point, after which they'll either commit to it or not. I'll pray for you to have the strength to meet that moment and find something to continue living for. 

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@DSC   This might come across as a little offensive, but why do you feel the need to tell a bunch of randos on a forum this?

 

I feel it is slightly vicariously embarrassing that some single 'smart' dude said something that could make you feel so poorly. You're not some failure because some dude, (that probably enjoys the scent of his own farts) indicates so.

 

Honestly, who gives a damn what anybody says about you? Telling the whole forum, "I'm done with it. I know I said I wouldn't bother you all anymore, but I've finally been completely broken and I don't give a shit anymore, I just want it all out. I've been fucking wrong this entire time..." seems a little melodramatic.

 

Are you going to write another one of these after you read something else by another pseud? You need to think for yourself - other fools be damned.

 

You need to know that you can go about life your own way - stop assuming you're inferior - that's a poor way to live life, imo.

 

But what do I know? I'm just another dude on a forum...   Really, though - you are better than this - try not to see things so negatively. :)

 

 

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The world is filled with very respectable magazines owned by very respectable billionaires trotting out very respectable novelists to explain to you why they should be free to subjugate, dominate, and exterminate whomever they please without reproach.  This is supposed to make the world better, somehow.

 

 

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Most of us will be forgotten after death. Most of us will remain insignificant to the rest of the world for the rest of our lives. Why bother trying to impress anyone? You should do the things you do because YOU enjoy doing them. You should share the things you make because you're PROUD of it. The fact that you're letting one guy, who reeks of social Darwinism, influence your worldview and self-worth like this tells me you're not ready to engage with this kind of material.

 

I can't talk you out of your feelings, but as someone whose toed the line with suicidal ideation before, I can tell you that you need to get more comfortable within your own skin. Peg yourself down to the simple things in life. Do the things you love, even if you think you're garbage at them, embrace the suckage, and eventually you'll come to appreciate the unique touch you bring to things. You'll find that your uniqueness impacts others as well. Everyone is insignificant, but everyone is unique. You don't need to be an academic, a "rationalist", or good at this or that to be anything worth living, you just need to be you. No one can play guitar like you can. No one can map DOOM like you can. No one can think like you can. Take those things further, and you'll see that it's okay to just be happy with yourself. 

 

Also, consider psychological help. If you're gonna vent, you might as well do it to someone who can help you. This whole place is about shooting demons with shotguns. 

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4 hours ago, Snaxalotl said:

Why are you bending over backwards for one man's view on the world? 

 

100% this.

 

DSC I cannot fathom why the words of some random asshole has had such a devastating effect on you. So this guy has a certain degree of intellectual pedigree. So fucking what? You can be the smartest person in the world and still be an absolute asshole with stupid and dangerous ideas.

 

This and other posts are clearly is symptomatic of a deeper psychological issue with you. Posting about it won't help. You might get some well intentioned words of encouragement and support, but no one here can fix the underlying problem. You need to find some real help from someone who knows what they are doing. 

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DSC, i've seen you post here for years. you seem like a really chill guy. but frankly, you sound pathetic in this post. political "intellectual" articles like this are a dime a dozen (at least in America, not sure about Spain) and you just get used to both sides putting out shill pieces like this after awhile. what i've ended up realizing is, the people who have a platform to even say this in an official article, have literally nothing to do with regular, average people living their lives.

and no, you aren't a failure at any of those things you mentioned.

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37 minutes ago, Snaxalotl said:

The world is way too complex to be objectively summarized by one individual.


If I could like this 100 times over I would.

 

One of the things I find most distressing about my society is the amount of hero worship, of putting celebs and other famous or powerful people on a pedestal and acting as if their beliefs and self worth are far greater than others. Being remembered is overrated anyway, all of humanity will one day be forgotten and evil people like H-tler will be remembered far longer than many good people because of the amount of damage they did to the world. Putin is one of those evil men, there is no defense of him or what he has done, he is a pure sociopath and a terrible leader who has weakened Russia greatly. He has a lot of blood on his hands.

 

I’ve actually heard of Arturo Pérez-Reverte, I’m pretty sure he has had multiple plagiarism cases brought against him and has been forced to pay damages. He sounds like a Jordan Peterson type. A thin skinned weak bully who pretends to be smarter and better than everyone else.

 

Seriously though seek help. Everyone needs it at some point in their life. Everyone. No shame in that.

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Allow me to respond to this thread's title ("I'm Fucking Useless") with a simple No.

 

I do not know you, but I invite you to be kind to yourself.

 

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Look, DSC, I've never talked to you, I'm not a psychologist, and you shouldn't take what I say here as anything important.

 

That said, this sounds like a serious cry for help. It really seems like you're trying to reach out to some authority figure to latch yourself on to to try and make sense of things. The world doesn't always make sense and it really seems like that's affecting you badly, and so you've taken to someone who says that they know the truth of the world and can provide a simple answer. It's the same type of thinking that fosters conspiracy theorists: looking for a simple answer to something not simple.

 

But it's not healthy. This guy, Arturo Pérez-Reverte, frankly sounds like a crackpot. Anyone who gives any credit to Putin is someone you can effectively write off. He is not someone who you should be putting your trust in, he's a bad actor who's pushing an agenda and ideology that is not sane, and you've bought into it, unfortunately. Some people are going to (and have) insulted you over making this post, mocking you, but I'm not going to do that, because I get it. We're in a very uneasy time right now and I get the impulse to want to get away from it all and to find something to make sense of it. But this is not the way, my dude. 

 

I'm a stranger that you don't know, but please, I'm begging, for your own wellbeing and mental health, seek some help, someone you can talk to and who can actually genuinely help you. We're not the people to do it, and this jackass you've latched onto certainly isn't either.

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Snaxalotl already summarized much better than I can ever do but I don't care :D

 

So it seems to me you've just realized that the world is f*cking complex. Yes, it can both be true that the current school system about encouraging everyone is good but bad at the same time. That's just how things work. There is no absolute measure for this. I don't know you so I don't want to say things just to make you feel good, but I'm pretty sure there are people much better at Doom mapping than you, there are people much better at playing the guitar at you... But they are not you. You've been dealt this hand, now deal with it. You just have to make it work somehow. Maybe you can't compete is speed but you can pour your soul into it, somehow make them still enjoyable.

 

No, it's not easy to figure out life... Just let it sooth you, that everyone else is in the same boat as you, trying to do it.

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My outlook on life is very bleak, and I have no sympathy for people who appoint themselves to a position of soft power because they think they know better than everyone else. Guess what, no matter how unique your idea is, someone else has the same exact one. You're just the one holding the mike. Most people shouldn't be holding the mike. This guy is the equivalent of a drunk asshole at karaoke night. He thinks he can sing, but he can't. So what do you do when you're in a bar listening to that guy? You get up and leave. That's what you should do here. In the internet era, too many people get a chance to hold the mike, and that means that we're in a situation where random jackasses have accumulated soft power because other people LET THEM. Soft power can be just as dangerous as a military force.

I know you like movies a lot, like me. You should be reading about stuff like that. I've learned a hell of a lot more by studying cinema than by reading political opinions on Twitter or whatever other internet toilet where people like this hang out. Want to know why? Because I don't read their shit, I can smell it from a mile away and I don't want to step in it.

Politics will add no value to your life, and if you'll forgive my nhilism, none of us here have the "power to change things" like we're told. We get one vote that ammounts to nothing. In my opinion, it's better to simply not vote and cut politics out completely than to ruin your life because of it. Your life is worth more than a voting ballot. Whatever "responsibility" you throw away by not voting and leaving politics out of your life will be redeemed by your mental freedom. If you want to do good for the world, you have to do good for yourself.

 

This guy you're talking about is nothing but a narcissist. The higher a man thinks of himself, the more of a cunt he is. You can fuck these cunts by simply ignoring them.

 

Pardon my French.

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5 hours ago, Kinsie said:

Arturo Pérez-Reverte, whoever that is, sounds like a dumbass complaining about those goddamn kids with their Gameboys and rap music. Don't take that shit seriously. Carve out your own path, wherever it may take you.

Hilarious, Simply Hilarious!

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Thankfully I avoided doing something stupid... I did manage to open a window and stand close to the edge, but the vertigo was too strong. I wasn't in my... Well, best state of mind when I wrote this, so I'll clear some stuff up.

 

3 hours ago, Biodegradable said:

What his boring, thinly-veiled regurgitated horseshit polemics against progressivism has anything to do with you though, DSC, I'm having trouble understanding.

The fact such a  seemingly successful and respectable man of culture stood up against everything I believed, making me think I was wrong about all my beliefs. H e also mentioned disdain for schools trying to help failing students... That part did hit very close to home as someone who suffered from school failure, and made me question my place in the world.

 

2 hours ago, Arrowhead said:

This might come across as a little offensive, but why do you feel the need to tell a bunch of randos on a forum this?

It might sound odd, but you guys are seriously both the only persons I consider friends, and the only persons I felt comfortable venting out. I know it sounds very sappy, but I'm telling the truth. I'm not completely neurotypical, I'm a diagnosed obsessive-compulsive, and I guess in times of great stress we tend to act stupid like this.

 

1 hour ago, Murdoch said:

This and other posts are clearly is symptomatic of a deeper psychological issue with you. Posting about it won't help. You might get some well intentioned words of encouragement and support, but no one here can fix the underlying problem. You need to find some real help from someone who knows what they are doing.

I do get help. I go to a psychologist and take my meds. The doses are getting so big, my limbs have become very shaky and I can't even hold a coffee cup properly anymore. But perhaps its not enough. I don't know, but I have been like this for a long time now and I cant find my way out... My OCD just cant let me go and make me stop caring about all this bullshit.

 

1 hour ago, map11has2names said:

DSC, i've seen you post here for years. you seem like a really chill guy. but frankly, you sound pathetic in this post. political "intellectual" articles like this

You may have noticed its not the first time. My obsessions have made me cross over the line several times before, and you can see me vent out like this in my post history. I guess I can only pretend for so long that everything is alright, and sometimes under the pressure you just burst like this.

 

 

 

 

And about the "why do you care about this?" questions... Let me explain. I have already talked about my OCD, hope that clears things up a little. And not only that, but for many, many months I barely even left my home, for reasons related to school failure. The time I spent between these walls probably took a toll on me and made it even harder to escape the internet and social media. And add to all that my lack of self-esteem I have because of how ashamed I am for not being a normal man, and well... You get me doing this. Someone I see as an authority figure, member of a prestigious society and all that stuff, that I find on my favorite and pretty high-brow magazine, essentially comes contradicting absolutely everything I believed about, and touching on the very personal issue of being unsuccessful at school making it even more personal, and you get something that just wrecks me completely. I just can't let go, I cant, I cant...

 

But don't worry too much. I've emailed my psychologist in order to have my next appointment sooner than usual. I hope he will be able to help me.

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And I forgot to say this in my already very much word salad post, but I am a dude barely above the level of a drop out, and he is this dude that has read a lot of stuff, is an accomplished writer and journalist, with a vocabulary and knowledge that surpass mine hundreds of time, and you start to feel like a zombieman against a cybie.

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The only person who gets the right to judge you, is you. Your individuality and your own personal spark is what makes you amazing. Don't ever let anyone make you feel like they're above you or that they "know better". You're perfect the way you are, and your flaws and shortcomings are what make you human. This community stands with our member eternally - We are with you in spirit and in friendship. We accept you as you come. Please, I hope you read this and I hope that when you do, you take comfort in my words, knowing that you're special to someone. 

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13 minutes ago, DSC said:

And I forgot to say this in my already very much word salad post, but I am a dude barely above the level of a drop out, and he is this dude that has read a lot of stuff, is an accomplished writer and journalist, with a vocabulary and knowledge that surpass mine hundreds of time, and you start to feel like a zombieman against a cybie.


Have you ever tried to rip someone off or steal their work? If not then you’re definitely the better person.

 

I was thinking of the right guy…

 

https://www.thelocal.com/20130717/top-spanish-writer-fined-200k-for-plagiarism/

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/sep/25/spain.books
 

And that’s just from a quick google search. If you’re the zombieman then he’s the crab-like looking guts on the floor. Seriously, this guy isn’t worth stressing yourself out over. He’s really not. If you truly value the feedback from this forum then do what so many people here are recommending and seek out help from someone who can genuinely help you through these kinds of moments. We ALL have them. Sounds like you are doing that, but please remember that if you’re not happy with your therapist you CAN find a different one who you feel is a better fit.

 

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Is your psychologist someone who you see for checkups and med prescriptions or someone you talk through things with? I know many people have both, i have in the past, but I realize getting access can be difficult. In any case I am glad you are getting professional help.

In times like these it's good to reach out to someone you feel comfortable with and talk on the phone or see them in person. You can't reason yourself out of any of these thought patterns you've been describing, especially if you're by yourself ruminating. 

 

On the main topic, I remember reading an article by a published author type guy who recalled having anxiety that he hadn't accomplished as much as Barack Obama, and reflecting on how irrational that is. No matter where you are in life you're going to have feelings like that, it's human nature

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23 minutes ago, DSC said:

Thankfully I avoided doing something stupid... I did manage to open a window and stand close to the edge, but the vertigo was too strong. I wasn't in my... Well, best state of mind when I wrote this, so I'll clear some stuff up.

 

The fact such a  seemingly successful and respectable man of culture stood up against everything I believed, making me think I was wrong about all my beliefs. H e also mentioned disdain for schools trying to help failing students... That part did hit very close to home as someone who suffered from school failure, and made me question my place in the world.

 

I don't know you, but you seem really caught on the concept of how someone much more accomplished and educated than yourself believes the opposite of everything you do. The long and short of it is, you'll find all kinds of people who believe all sorts of things after having gone through the highest levels of education. There are people much smarter and more accomplished than yourself who believe the opposite of what you do. This isn't just true for you, it's true for *all of us.* 

 

There's nothing you need to do or any way you need to feel about it. His ideas aren't a refutation of your existence, and there's nothing that says you need to do anything other than ignore them. And there's people just as accomplished as him who believe the opposite of what he does, so what of it? Let it go and find value in the people you actually know and talk to in your life.

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