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(NightDive's Doom) Curated community list of Classic Doom mods

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MANDATORY:

  • Insert a GAMECONF lump in your wad.

It is worth pointing out that currently any WAD with a GAMECONF creates corrupted savegames when loaded via the Mods->Play menu.

For now the GAMECONF requirement should be waived until this is fixed by the Nightdive port.

EDIT: This has now been fixed in the nightdive port. GAMECONF is now safe to use.

 

For UMAPINFO: I recommend that an episode always be specified even if your WAD is a full 32 map replacement. This renames the WAD in the savegames list. If you don't do this saves for the WAD will be listed as "Hell On Earth".

Having an empty graphic lump name "" for the episode line will cause the next line in the UMAPINFO file to be parsed incorrectly.

For the template: MAP31 and MAP32 should have SKY3, not SKY2.

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This will assuredly get fixed because having a GAMECONF lump will be mandatory for uploading files as I understood it from my last conversation with developers.

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I agree at that time it should be made a requirement again.

But the developers have been firm to mention that there is no ETA on any upcoming patch, so it's probably a good while out.

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I dunno, just know that when the next update drops, your maps will break and you'll have to add the GAMECONF lump and reupload everything again. That or upload everything now and just deal with saves being broken.

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20 minutes ago, Redneckerz said:

S/F/P_Markers: Make sure your these markers (_START/_END) are done properly. The S/F/P markers are just a byproduct of some older stuff not properly setup or newer stuff that 's only tested in GZ that doesn't give a shit where entries can be found.

The P_ markers are a new requirement; it's not a GZDoom issue, vanilla never cared about those either.

 

For F_ markers, it's important to remember that for vanilla compatibility, many wads used a "fake" FF_START marker (which the engine ignores, so it looked instead at the F_START from the IWAD) with a real F_END marker. Again, if that trick is now breaking something, then it's a new development; used to work in all ports.

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Welp, guess I should add those mandatory lumps to my updated versions of Emblem and Power Struggle, huh :p

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1 hour ago, Scuba Steve said:

I dunno, just know that when the next update drops, your maps will break and you'll have to add the GAMECONF lump and reupload everything again. That or upload everything now and just deal with saves being broken.


Will it actually break existing uploads, or just become a requirement for new ones and reuploads?

 

In any case, I don’t think the solution is to introduce the loading bug in our own uploads by adding the lump in now. Not everyone’s maps can be done saveless :P

Wouldn’t it be better to stick with the old file until the patch is actually issued, and only then replace it with this one?

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Yeah. Part of the reason Redneckerz and I wanted to get an early jump on this is so that Doom community members have the chance to upload their projects first before WeedGoku69 uploads a copy and you don't know who they are. *A lot* of projects on the mod browser are going to break soon and the moderately technical knowledge needed to make them work might gatekeep low-effort uploads, so we need to report as many as possible and get them removed so official releases can climb the charts. A lot fewer people will be uploading once there are enough custom maps available and they don't have to do it.

 

2 minutes ago, Horus said:


Will it actually break existing uploads, or just become a requirement for new ones and reuploads?

 

In any case, I don’t think the solution is to introduce the loading bug in our own uploads by adding the lump in now. Not everyone’s maps can be done saveless :P

Wouldn’t it be better to stick with the old file until the patch is actually issued, and only then replace it with this one?

From what I understand, yes? The engine itself will check and if they're missing, send you back to the title screen. Part of the problem right now is that there's a glitch in the uploader that lets you bypass the check to see if your map will work properly.

You're not introducing a bug to your maps, saves just don't currently work, but when it's fixed, you won't have to do anything because the engine will stop corrupting save files.

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The one good thing about WeedGoku69 is that he's really lazy. Unless the wad already has all the required lumps, the chances he'd upload it is pretty slim, I'd say. Having these strict requirements should help a lot with preventing the minimal effort uploads Goku is known for. 

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This is great potential news. Il not bother starting any new user add ons as I thought there was an update due soon to level everything back to basics. Can't wait for some proper uploads with no issues. 

 

For now back to tetanus. Great wad BTW. Some cracking firefights on uv. 

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Updated Forest Fever to comply with these requirements. I'm short on time right now, but later on, I'm going to update the rest, as well as upload some other stuff I've made in the past.

 

Two notes for Forest Fever:

 

1) it has no official /idgames release so far, because when I made it, there were plans for additional maps. Since I abandoned that idea, but wanted to upload these maps nonetheless, so the WADINFO in this release consist of a free-form text and my personal credits listing. I hope that's not an issue.

2) a seemingly perfect UMAPINFO fails to parse the name of the first map, and that only; it appears empty in the KEX port.

 

Spoiler

map MAP01
{
	episode = "", "Forest Fever", "1"
	levelname = "Skeleton Key"
	next = "MAP02"
	skytexture = "SKY1"
	music = "D_RUNNIN"
}

map MAP02
{
	levelname = "Beneath the Trees"
	skytexture = "SKY1"
	endcast = true
	music = "D_STALKS"
}

 

 

Is it possibly a known bug, or I  misunderstood something about the syntax?

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4 minutes ago, Zoltán of Synthwave said:

Is it possibly a known bug, or I  misunderstood something about the syntax?

KEX Doom has a bug in it's parser right now, that means you have to put the episode definition on the bottom of the block, like the following:
 

map MAP01
{
	levelname = "Skeleton Key"
	next = "MAP02"
	skytexture = "SKY1"
	music = "D_RUNNIN"

	episode = "M_EPI1", "Forest Fever", "1"
}

 

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Episode definition works fine at the start of the block.

You need to have an "episode = clear" before it (only for the first episode in your UMAPINFO though)

This clears the default Doom/Doom 2 episodes.

 

@Zoltán of Synthwave The reason yours has a parsing problem is that the first parameter of your episode line is a "". This usually causes Kex Doom to not parse the next line properly. To avoid this, use "-" if you don't have an actual graphic lump to use with it.

Second, endcast = true (or any other game finale) won't work properly unless there is also an "intertext" story text defined for that map.

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GAMECONF was originally present when I posted "my" (I mean: the team) wad. But it causes crashes with saves, I had to remove it for now. And crashes are still present only on secret maps (for unknown reasons, plus IDCLEV31/IDCLEV32 does not work).

 

I will update when I find the origin of these problems

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Thinking it'd be better to hold off on the mandatory GAMECONF requirement until the save problem is patched out. People that play now will have issues with the WADs.

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I finished my testing/bugfixing pass on my releases. All four projects are fully playable/completable in the kex port now. I also made some improvements while editing the wads -- I put the specifics into a status update here on DW. Not sure I can link to the update directly, but maybe this will work.

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Thanks for the makeshift help for everyone involved!

 

Update on my behalf: I updated all my existing projects to be compliant with the requests stated in the first post and also tested them locally.

 

My user URL is the same, the only notable change is that I also added another release that used to fail working on KEX Doom due to the order of lumps being a huge mess.

 

Regardless, as I mentioned in the previous thread, these are all my own personal reuploads, I'm the author of all these.

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Went ahead and updated Interception to include a UMAPINFO and GAMECONF lumps.

 

Interception II went through another bugfixing/test playthrough, and I’ve fixed some unreliable enemy spawns, softlocks, and broken geometry, I’ve added the GAMECONF lump, and I’ve updated the UMAPINFO. I pushed the gameplay updates to idgames earlier this week as well.

 

Will get to the rest of my Bethesda.net uploads later. I’ve tried to upload Atonement, but the uploader breaks upon loading MAP33.

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11 hours ago, skillsaw said:

I finished my testing/bugfixing pass on my releases. All four projects are fully playable/completable in the kex port now. I also made some improvements while editing the wads -- I put the specifics into a status update here on DW. Not sure I can link to the update directly, but maybe this will work.

Hi mate. What are the releases you have done? I will add them tonight when I get home from work. Thanks 

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48 minutes ago, skillsaw said:

 

These four: https://mods.bethesda.net/en/doom_doomii/all?author_displayname=pgdebruyne


I believe they're already on the spreadsheet though.

Ah I wasn't aware that was you. I've seen that upload name before. Unfortunately I'm not sure what the issue is but only ancient aliens and lunatic work on ps5. I can't play valiant or vanguard. I really enjoyed lunatic. That last final countdown map is pure chaos. Loved it.

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Bummer. They all work on PC/Steam Deck. Hopefully NDS can fix whatever is going on in the console versions.

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1 minute ago, skillsaw said:

Bummer. They all work on PC/Steam Deck. Hopefully NDS can fix whatever is going on in the console versions.

Yeah there are many issues I'm. Experiencing on ps5. It's a total pain. All the mods I downloaded when the game was released are OK but any I download past few days all I get is black screen when try to play. 🤷. Think there's a fair few demons that need ironing out in this release. Il say it again though, loved lunatic. Thought it was well good. Cheers for the reply.

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Both your valiant and vanguard uploads work on Xbox Series X for me. 

 

DBH, if you delete the reserved game storage for DOOM + DOOM II from your PS5 settings storage management and then let the mods download again does it work?

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5 minutes ago, Trov said:

Both your valiant and vanguard uploads work on Xbox Series X for me. 

Unsure of the problem to be honest on ps5. Just seems lately every mod I try to download just will not work. I've got a list of around 30 which I've downloaded since the kex port came out which all appear to work, they at least load to the menu.ive played 5 of them to completion. But who knows what's up.

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10 minutes ago, Trov said:

Both your valiant and vanguard uploads work on Xbox Series X for me. 

 

DBH, if you delete the reserved game storage for DOOM + DOOM II from your PS5 settings storage management and then let the mods download again does it work?

Not sure. I shall try that later and report back.

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1 minute ago, DBH said:

Just seems lately every mod I try to download just will not work.

A LOT of things are going to break soon when the port gets updated and checks for UMAPINFO and GAMECONF lumps (and there isn't a glitch allowing uploaders to bypass the check). There isn't an official category, but make sure you're reporting all of these uploads as "Broken, doesn't work with Kex Doom" so we can get as many duplicates and lazy uploads deleted as possible.

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2 minutes ago, Scuba Steve said:

A LOT of things are going to break soon when the port gets updated and checks for UMAPINFO and GAMECONF lumps (and there isn't a glitch allowing uploaders to bypass the check). There isn't an official category, but make sure you're reporting all of these uploads as "Broken, doesn't work with Kex Doom" so we can get as many duplicates and lazy uploads deleted as possible.

As mentioned above by the other guy, I don't think they are broken. At least not on pc/xbox. I appreciate that an update is coming though and can't wait tbh 😂.

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