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i am very interested, mostly because i loved revilution to death so playing more would be a beuty!

Oh baby that should help a lot to read the MBF21 dehacked (While i wait for Whacked to get updated.), also glad to see TSF is getting his sprites used here.

i had plans to contribute with the project on a proper map myself, but for some reason my maps weren't really working out as much to fit the gameplay in it(they were too short or on low quality to say the least), getting the mood of the cyberpunk on the background was easy though, so on Cuppy's request i made the mapping prefabs of those backgrounds that you see in some maps, specifically on the first map and credits map (Former is near the end, latters uses the in construction building only in some areas still on the background.)

Glad to see this wad being released, even if i couldn't contribute a map directly my prefabs made it in a couple of maps, which by itself is a nice achievemnt.

While i don't think that is a bad idea, i don't think we should try to make decorate obsolete either but thats just me. hell even going for a end of a year deadline sounds Quite an objective, i would assume at least maybe by 2022.

While it is experimental it doesn't really use them to a full extension the new monsters added could might as well be deployed as a replacement of the wolf ss and nobody would have been wiser, but it's still an attempt

Hey in regards of the dehacked features, is there a way to access it? or do we have to wait untill whacked updates to support it? Currently i've tried with things and Weapon stuff but i am not sure if it works, which i should add you guys should probably put examples for also Weapons and others just in case, while we wait for the proper update.

I have made a test map that uses most (But not all) of the mapping features. Currently it just shows some tag examples but not all of them, not even the functioning generelized crusher, here are some that are shown in the map: MBF21Testmap.zip Standard Doom 2 with new music, this is mostly for show some examples.

Oh wow this is run for it without the legs! Still pretty good non the less!

Nice to see this release, cannot wait to play it!

Ayy congrats on the release, i am quite happy how it came out!

these codepointers man... this stuff makes me sweat with anticipation. I don't know about you but once this thing is ready we should consider making some maps with this format for a community project of sorts, probably after we done making a the dehacked patch that uses the assets.

I am somewhat kind of against the idea, But i think we can find caveat, basically i wish to keep my version of my map but also have it along the version you want to merge with. I am just not digging the idea of map merging with joe's map but Wouldn't hurt to see how it would turn out also So having both my map standalone and the combined map would be good test.

That being said @kraflab you should update The Op with the Github link of your progress on the new complevel.

A lot of these thing skillsaw proposed sound fair, some makes wonder why weren't added in, but then I mean... sure it is possible, but that would be a pain to balance for some projectiles (Especially if the projectile is being recieved by a spidermastermind), not to say that aren't bad. If i can add my request for it, maybe add a Pierce projectile flag, does damage to a monster once in the projectile life and only dies when it hits a wall. For some extra's i can propose projectile flag that makes it jump in it's death state if it meets a linedef that has mid texture and Impassalbe flag (Admittedly maybe instead of that we could make it a block projectile)

Well i mean at least with modern tools you can cram more detail, also i have to say playing Vengeance and this is the most coolest door i have ever seen in the doom format. playing this with crispy doom btw.

Yeah you have my approval!

I mean i am fine if you want to keep the pog champ face, really it's your project.

Ok so i did and it fixed it, so here is the map again, this time i have replaced the basic twango images with computer twangos Serverroomonfire.zip

Oh yeah about those, I Tried adding them in but Chocodoom didn't seem to not find them for some reason, resulting in a error.

Did a small update to the map, i took most of the feedback Gokuma gave to me and added another Twango logo in the map. also added a midi it's from The Prodigy - Smack my bitch up Serverroomonfire.zip

If you say it's a fair trade off with A guy spawning with a ssg have a chance to die, then sure, can be done. Same with combining the older and newer detail, though it might be more server room if it was the other way but if you say so i combined them also. I am aware of that being a pain and all but there is a problem, where is the TwangoTex.wad you keep saying? the one that is in the OP is just a zip with some pngs.

What about the generic projectile and hitscan variants for monster and player? don't those fit the latter categories seeing they are generalized? I can understand some of the requested features kind of being a pain to implement (Don't know if Extra sounds (for extended dehacked) would also fit that category.)

Kind bums me leaving this spawn empty but it will do, i will now release it, i should note however that you have to redo the whole shbang with the textures to make sure that it doesn't trigger the idgames archive again. Serverroomonfire.zip

it's probably a stupid idea but i wanted to ask if making the player spawn near the ammo would be a good idea, it's either that or change the ssg to be ammunition. as for the torches, you brought a good point and i went with that, it's very basic but il do the trick